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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Chris Black coming to you live from the scorching hot piss stained streets of downtown Manhattan. Jason. I'm sure you're looking at a beautiful scene, birds chirping over there in Glendale, grass is still green. That's right, and I hate it when people go travel somewhere and complain about the temperature. It's like, get a life, guys, you know what I mean? I agree. I couldn't agree more, Jason. I'm not complaining about the temperature. I'm telling you what it is versus European people who don't understand that temperatures can get that high because they have kept... air conditioning out of their lives, which is kind of their mistake, if you ask me. They made their petite bed, and it's time for them to lay in it. Exactly. Those Tecla sheets are going to get sweat through tonight. It's wonderful here in Glendale. I think in my neighborhood, Sony's filming something. I'm not sure what. I got a lot of crafty tables. I got a lot of medics. I got a lot of union guys all over my block. I hope you're protesting the union and the cops at the same time. Kind of just sitting out on your lawn with two different signs. These union guys are making the cops look pretty cool. That's the part. That's the part that's confusing me, Chris. Bro, it doesn't... I mean, a pile of shit can make a cop look cool. You know what I mean? That's not really... I don't know if that's a challenge. Well, if there's ACAB, then would it be a union worker is a bastard? Is that...

It doesn't really roll off the tongue in the same way. It doesn't roll off quite the same, but we can kind of workshop something like this. I was talking to a client earlier, and he was talking about something. He's like, yeah, unfortunately, the acronym is RIA. So we're kind of trying to figure out what we can do about that. The acronym for what? He was explaining that the acronym for this thing that someone was working on was RIA and how they were like, oh, it's not great, but maybe no one will notice. And I'm like, well, I don't know. I don't know. They might notice that. They might notice that. Yeah, I don't really know what else is going on other than Elon Musk is white and he can't hear your insults about his body, but we can. The way that his chest kind of protrudes over his stomach is a very strange, it feels like some sort of scoliosis or something, maybe. could get checked out by a chiropractor or some sort of doctor. Look, it doesn't take a doctor, Chris. It doesn't take a doctor. The way that his hips and his ribs are sitting is not in line, and that probably is a result of years of fake coding on his fake websites. So you're saying those pictures of him in a garage, I mean, he's even uglier than he is now. You can see. You can see in those pictures that his fake coding is going to lead to some issues with his spine. Yeah, exactly. He's not sitting in the right position. It happens to everyone who is part of WFH Mafia. It's just going to... It's hard to be mindful of your posture as we're approaching hour 10 or 11 for some of these CEOs and startup owners. I know. It's crazy that Elon, even back then, didn't have kind of the Herman Miller Aeron chair to help correct this with the lumbar support. Oh, there's 12 different touch points. You're so money if you have an Aeron chair. Look, I think that we saved the photo because in my mind, in my joke, I would be Ari Emanuel spraying you down as you got out of the water.

your skin as a member of the Latinx community is so beautifully olive that I can't even make that joke. Because Elon's looking translucent. He looks like Casper in this picture. Yeah, my boy is clear. My boy is clear. My boy is clear? He pays $99 a year annually. That's how clear he is. No, no. He's cutting the line in security. He's see-through. I mean, this motherfucker looks like an off-white suitcase. I'm not clear. I'm see-through. You know, like certain people have like that certain body shape and type. You know, they'll say like, oh, you're like you sit at the computer or you play video games all day. Sure. So that's why you have maybe a bad hunched over posture or whatever Elon's body is doing. But Elon's body has some different kind of aura and energy to it that isn't from just, you know, his email job or gaming. I think it's from. From the style that he uses his computer to masturbate himself to. Yeah, I mean, that's obviously what he's doing with the machine most. But he also looks, he looks like the letter S a little bit. You know what I mean? It's like a little, it's truly, what I'm saying is it's like it's really. Like a Slytherin snake? Yeah, it's really strange. Move your body like a snake, ma? It really, yeah, it really is odd. I mean, I don't want to obsess over Elon and Ari's holiday. And I do think all of you guys body shaming Elon. You guys forget that rich people have feelings, and I forget that too. But I actually think in this case Elon doesn't have feelings. Well, once he downloads the right driver, he will. But at this moment, it's still a touch and go. He's unable to print or have feelings right now because his driver is not updated. But in some other celebrity news, I didn't want to kind of – I sent this to the group chat. What's the opposite? Our enemies over at Mischief, M-S-C-H-F, have released a shoe with late-night gesture cocaine user Jimmy Fallon, and it's called a gobstomper because as you wear the shoe, parts of it wear away like a gobstomper, and the lava-like colors change.

On the shoe, Jason. Okay, so just like if you were to, I bought an old classic car, and I'm standing, and the years of paint are being shown, like it was yellow in 78. Exactly. Blah, blah, blah. It's almost like paleontology, you know what I mean? It is, it is. But this does sound like, I don't know anything about mischief, other than they don't have vowels. They did the blood shoe that they got sued for. Oh. Oh, the Lil Nas X one. They're what we like to call in the business, Jason, disruptors that think outside the box. Yeah, I was actually thinking that same thing about them. I'm sure you were. They're kind of men's fashions, merry little pranksters in a way, right? Yeah, I don't know how merry they are. I mean, there's a New York Times story about them. I try. just not to take it in. But when you start getting Jimmy Fallon involved in footwear, someone like me has to stand up and take notice because that is just one of the more twisted. I know we've run out of ideas. That's a Chris Black dog whistle right there. It's almost like that story was written in order to get your attention as if this whole simulation was being rehearsed. It's strange and oddly specifically targeted at me. I agree. But I think we're going to leave it there for now. put you on notice but i'm also my feelings are a little hurt today jason um and i did want to kind of speak directly to the to the person who okay well i was i just wanted to say really quick before it sounds like i'm about to be in the dog house he got that dog today i have that dog in him and i do have time for you brocos and speaking of brocos ask any broco that i've ever met and they'll tell you that this jimmy fallon mischief shoe technology idea is nothing new. I've seen worn down soles of shoes change colors. That's true. And I've been a part of this community as well. So back to the drawing bar, Jimmy Fallon. Okay, so Jimmy Fallon and Mischief, please step your game up. Once you start wrapping your Converse Chuck Taylors in duct tape, we can talk. Yeah, I say it's all right, but what else you got? Yeah, of course, that's my response to everything. But yeah, I'm feeling a little, we had to podcast today so the timing wouldn't have worked out, but there's this...

very chic Mew Mew tennis event going on at the grass courts of Forest Hills. And I didn't, I don't know if you got an invite, Jason, but I didn't get an invite. But I'm seeing a lot of friends and family at this event. You know, Sam Hine is there, Ella is there, Olive is there. I mean, Richie Shazam is there. You know what I mean? And I'm just a little bit like, so you're going to invite all these hoes to drink tea and shit, but you're not going to invite any real players. I just find that interesting, Jason. Okay, first and foremost, thank God I'm off the hook for this one because I really thought I was going to get my ass handed to me on the silver platter. No, not today. Not today, Jason. I'm missing you. So I'm going to be nice today. All right, Puff. I think these little things have been going on since the dawn of time. That's right. Where, you know, the stolen valor, Mew Mew, the PR company is like, yo, I know a guy who can make these tennis balls and they're going to be custom. But instead of saying Wilson, it's going to say Mew Mew. They're going to be ornamental, unplayable balls that have Lyme disease and monkeypox on them from whatever Sri Lankan factory it came from. But it's going to look sick on my stories that will expire in 24 hours. It's going on my B-Real. Don't ever bring up B-Real again on this show. Also, I just realized B-Real, double entendre for B-Real as in the secondary footage that might not be good enough. Oh. Do you think that is just a coincidence, or are they playing 5D with us over there? Family. I've got Cypress Hills B-Real on the phone. Let's see what he has to say right after the break. Yeah, Cypress Hills B-Real is like, oh, hell yeah, fool. I was hoping you were going to insert the sound of a bubbler before we hear B-Real kind of take over the mic. But, yeah, I mean, look, I'm glad that tennis is getting its just due and the Prado Miu Miu family. Next time, just kind of reach out to your favorite lefty for that cross-court inside-out forehand. You know what I mean? You've seen the quads?

That's where the power comes from. It's not the arms. I don't want to see this footage of these beautiful influencers in these amazing clothes with the new Mew Mew Ballet Flats on trying to play tennis. Because that could result in injury, if not worse, death. I think I'm going to email their PR and let them know my chick has the Mew Mew Ballet Flats. And I think that I at least get a shot to try out for the team. I don't need a guaranteed slot. And a friend of the show, Emily Oberg, did have the presence of mind to invite us, a couple of real players. to her fashion tennis activation. And we fit just right in with those 19-year-old cross-eyed Russian models with 4.3 million followers. Exactly. If you don't invite us, the party basically didn't happen. Look, I don't want to go to any event that I'm not welcome at, but I think that if you did a little thinking... you would realize kind of who needs to be there. And that's on period, Mew Mew. Suck my dick. Suck my dick. I don't care if you're having a moment right now. Yeah, I don't give a shit. And if those ballet flats in the nice blush pink don't come to size 17, I guess we don't need to be there anyway. We do have a guest today. A new favorite band of mine, Mama, is joining us on How Long Gone. Ida and Allegra are two early 20s very cool. And I just feel like these freaks are going to read us our last rights today. I don't know what it is. The record is great. And I don't know. Ida works in a cheese store, which I think is going to give a lot for us. And Allegra is a server. They're in L.A. They open for Wet Leg in March. They're hitting the road with Friend of the Show and best burner account out, snail mail. So let's tap in. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. And, I mean, it...

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an inherent learning that comes with this. You know what I mean? It's like a grandfather hanging out with his granddaughter or grandson. Chris has been podcasting since you guys were in your little organic diapers, okay? Exactly. Everything's going to be just fine. Exactly. Are you coming to us live and direct from Los Angeles? We're in Brooklyn right now. We're in a library's room. Yeah, Chris, why did you think they were from L.A.? I don't know, man. I don't... I don't fucking know. We are from L.A. We just live in Brooklyn. Well, there you go, Jason. How about that? So Bushwick, interesting. That's a neighborhood that I try to avoid at all costs. I'm actually in New York as well, in the East Village. It's a long way from Crossroads, isn't it, Chris? It really is. What do you guys like about Bushwick besides all the hotties, obviously? The hotties. It's cheap. Not even though. It's like literally not. Today I was walking down the sidewalk and there was like a big rat and he was just, he looked sick and he was just standing and he like didn't move. I was like, this is so scary. You mean sick, you mean sick ill, not sick as in cool. Yeah, he looked ill. How did you know this is a he, by the way? What did you do to help him? I feel like all my references for rats are just from Ratatouille, so that's why they're all men in my mind. That's right. When you said hot rat, I imagine this rat had on some car hearts with kind of like a shoestring belt or something. Tim's. He actually takes really good photos. So you saw this. He's on a three-day bender. Which makes him hotter? I don't know. So you confronted this rat. You made eye contact, but you chose to keep walking. No, he was in between a fence and an apartment, and he was just staring at a wall, and he was literally this big, and his tail was sticking out onto the sidewalk. And I almost stepped on him, and I didn't, and I just kept walking. Okay, was he wearing a Yankees hat or a Mets hat? Yankees.

There we go. The fitted hat. The fitted. This rat sounds like it's on ketamine from the night before and kind of having a tough come down. It's a real problem over there in Bushwick. Bushwick. So you guys live in Bushwick. Okay. And is this something that – are you surrounded by your peers and friends or do you feel like you're kind of – Now that you're seeing a little bit of success, maybe it's time to upgrade. Upper West Side or something. Upper West Side? No. You want me to go to bed at 9 p.m.? Don't attack me on my own show. So what time do you guys normally go to bed on a standard basis? I'm not talking about Saturday night in the club till 4 a.m. type shit. Just a regular day. Yeah. Last night I went to bed at like 1.30 too. All right. So what the fuck are you doing? Are you watching my so-called life reruns? Bro. TikTok. Literally. It's upsetting. So you're up late just diving into the algorithm that's got its claws in you. Genuinely. And I'm thinking the entire time, like, why can't I just put this down? I don't know why. What's funny is that's like the difference. I don't have TikTok. Everyone says I'm too plugged out. Yeah, you're not plugged in enough. I like plugged out as a term. I'm going to start using that. I mean, I think that we're also a duo. And I would say that I am more plugged in. than my co-host and he doesn't tell me to unplug because he knows that's not an option kind of my life's blood but i'm not but i'm not plugged out okay i'm with it are you saying are you saying you're not you're not using social media at all or you just use it sparingly instagram sometimes but then i get bored i don't like like just tapping one side of the screen or like scrolling Just get bored. So you need more of a game. Are you playing Angry Birds? I'm fully playing like old man games. What kind of games are we playing? Are we talking like chess? Old man like gin rummy? There was chess once. There was a big Sudoku phase. Right now I'm in a huge crossover phase. And then me and my roommate just started playing back.

Okay, so Bushwick sounds electric, I gotta say, guys. Summer in New York City, baby? Uh-oh, there's nothing like it. So you're up till 2 a.m. drinking canned beer or playing fucking backgammon with your roommate? Yeah! But it's not real backgammon. It's like digital, like computer backgammon. No, no, no, real. You're doing analog backgammon. Okay, that's sexy as hell. It's like we're on the island of Capri. Yeah, you're back to the land. Do you guys put on, like, Bodhi shirts before you do that? All right, so you're playing backgammon IRL, and then you said you're using your phone for what, Elf? YouTube, then. YouTube. So how much Rogan are you taking down on a weekly basis? Yeah, way too much. What I've been, like, really into, which is so fucking weird, I'm, like, exposing myself out here, but, like, I've been watching, like, weird comparisons of, like, McDonald's from different countries. Oh, shit. I love those. Those are great. Like the BuzzFeed vids. Nothing great about BuzzFeed. Okay, hold on, hold on. BuzzFeed vids. Yeah, first of all. Well, the Wired videos are sick. You guys shouldn't even know what BuzzFeed is, first of all. Second of all. I know, that's so millennial. What's your go-to McDonald's order at Gun to Head? Standard six-piece chicken McNugget, a McFlurry with Oreos and M&M's. It's not enough food. It's not enough food. When you say a standard six-piece McNuggets, you wanted to say, I'm not getting a Travis Scott or a Lizzo or anything like that. I'm just doing regular. You guys are clearly tapped into the fast food world, which is something I try to avoid. Because they're probably eating every day. Yeah, you guys eat every day, which is fucking crazy. So if there was a mama meal, where would it be? Whoa. Taco Bell? Okay, Taco Bell Mama Meal. Jason's going to get upset because he's kind of a Del Taco guy. I don't want to put you... Not a word, ladies. Not a word. What would it be if we had to get these elements together? Look, guys, Chris is so hungry. Chris needs Mama Meal. Mama.

Yeah, let's get this done because I need to – this is kind of pressing. You know what I'm saying? You guys need to agree. We're kind of going to want to get this thing done sooner than later if you could. We're going to want to put a bow on this. So my proposition would be two cheesy gordita crunches because right now they don't have a deal for two and they're hella expensive on their own. They're like five bucks. So you get two for like nine and then a Dr. Pepper. Right? Yeah, and then maybe like... Don't say anything. Okay, I feel like you guys know this menu maybe a little better than I do. Jason, if you could just... Sorry, I'm a layman, and I don't want to put you guys on the spot. Jason, could you explain to me kind of what goes into the gordita crunch, please, just quickly? Actually, I can't. I mean, I could take a wild guess because every food item at Taco Bell is made out of the same five ingredients. It's got some tortilla. It's got crunch. It probably got lettuce in that bitch. Cheese. Some type of... like gray meat all of that all of that and a creamy chipotle sauce exactly so what is what is the element that really speak are you guys are you guys into sauce not not like dressing slick but i mean like are you are you dipping everything are you a ranch and pizza i mean i just feel like you ever tried aioli before i'm not too huge on like white sauces at all though Like half of them freak me out. This has been a thing that comes up a lot on the podcast, actually. I hate white sauces. I hate mayonnaise, which people get upset about because I am mayonnaise as a person. You know what I mean? So it's a little upsetting to some of the listeners. I like how fast you said right. Right, definitely. Right, right, right. But it sounds like you guys are kind of spice forward. Have you spent some time in America's Southwest? We like a lot of tangy, briny pickles. You do live in Brooklyn. That kind of does track. You like a pickled flavor no matter what the cuisine is. You're kind of searching that out. I'm looking for vinegar. You're trying to wrap those lips around a kimchi quesadilla or something like that. For our listeners at home, her mouth was so puckery.

Like the Warheads logo. Yes. Okay. Now, something like the Warheads logo. There we go. Thank you for that illustration. So, not to, I mean, the road sounds like it's, you're eating well in your own mind. I would say maybe you guys should look at maybe, you know, because some places in America, I don't want to kind of put you on game, but there is a Whole Foods. You know what I mean? And you can go there, and you can just get a salad. You know what I'm saying? Kind of a straightforward kind of plate of greens. We got some advice recently that said that on your rider, you should put groceries and veggies and sandwich stuff. And then you take it with you. Oh, yeah. Welcome to the big leagues, guys. Come on. Even I know that. Come on. You can't just ask for a 12-pack of Stella and hummus. You know what I mean? You can't really get by on that. Literally been our entire ride. I know. Literally. And then we're wondering why we can't poop. So you're not only rocking every night, but you're dealing with some digestive issues. Oh, yeah. A lot. Let's take a commercial break and get back into that. Unfortunately, this podcast is not presented by a probiotic sponsor, but it's something maybe – are you taking any probiotics? What kind of vitamins are we working with? I actually have an acid reflux disease, so I have to – So I have to take medicine. How come that was the time where you laughed the most during this podcast so far? It's so embarrassing. No, it's not. It affects millions of people all over the world, doesn't it? It's called GERD, and that's the embarrassing thing. Oh, I know. I've heard of GERD. GERD. Can you spell that one for me? It's an acronym, right? It is. Gastrointestinal. Very close. Something, something. Gastroesophical reflux disease. Go off. I feel like it sounds more serious than it is. You got any other problems? We got anything else? Because I'm dealing with mostly just aches and pains. You know what I mean? Like all the mental stuff I've kind of decided isn't real. You guys should try that. I feel like your generation is really focused on this. Well, there's probably some people that might think that GERD isn't real. You know what I mean? You know what? That's true. That's true. That's not me. I believe in your disease, of course. But a lot of people might be like, hmm.

You're girding for attention, you know what I mean? I'm happy that you shared that with us and our listenership because I think that visibility is important. I agree. I actually hold a lot of stress in my stomach. That's just me. Had you been to London before? What do you think about it? It's my favorite city. And also, he's vegetarian. That's right. So just, again, listeners at home, they look to each other like this old man is fucked up. We didn't really like it that much, but we kept on thinking. Well, we had a really rough first day. Just like exo tour life problems? Yeah. Or you said you were turning up? No. Well, so we were out until like 4 a.m. the night before in Glasgow. I fell. Like I bailed on the dance floor, really fucked up my leg. Like when I woke up the next morning, I like went to go to the bathroom and like fell again because like I couldn't stand up. So I had a limp. So you're already having bathroom problems, and now this. I, like, literally. Like, I had a debilitating limp, and I didn't have control of it at the time. Are you saying that the GHB went straight to your legs? And kind of like, or you're saying this is a physical. This sounds like a Tuesday in Glasgow, if you ask me. It is not drug-related. It was literally, like, I. fell on the dance floor i don't even remember falling that well and then i woke up the next so maybe maybe you slipped i slipped i remember there was a lot of is it possible you had a wet leg okay so what were they playing when you fell do you know maybe idle wild maybe like a hometown hero or is it something more classic new it was i remember them playing new order and then i remember they played this like dubstep remix of a fontaine song do you remember that god yeah so it was like wild like we were and our tour manager simon was also going fucking so since you guys all love dubstep this much that's how fucked up your injury is it was fucked up so i started the day off with a bum leg ito was so hung over that the first stop we made

At a gas station, they threw up blood. Okay, now we're talking. Now we're cooking with grease ladies. I wasn't sure about you guys, but throwing up blood on tour is real shit. I took a picture of it. Your mom is listening to this podcast right now. She's been there. And then Aaron, who is our bassist, was developing strep throat. on the eight-hour drive from Glasgow to London. So by the time we arrived in London, we were just a mess. Oh, and then we had to go eat at Wetherspoon. Is that what it's called? Wetherspoon. Which is, for our American listeners, correct me if I'm wrong, that's kind of a chain pub. Yes. It's like a TGI Fridays, but not as fun or cool. smelled like BO. Yeah. Well, it has carpet. It has carpet, right? Yeah, exactly. It's carpeted, and it's like two floors. Oh, Wetherspoons. I've been to a Wetherspoons location, and I think it was like Cheeky. You know what I mean? Like they thought it would be funny because there's all these Americans in town for a wedding to go there. And I was like, I don't like this prank. Yeah. Like going to Dallas barbecue as a joke. It's like not that funny. Exactly. Like I don't even drink. Like I can't enjoy this in any way at all. Yeah. It wasn't funny. It was scary. So you're saying you're limping into the wetter spoons. It smells like, you know, the lounge after a full tour. No cleaning. It smells like pee-pee, for one. Did you have some chips to kind of calm your stomach? No, I actually had, like, a really weird pasta dough. Hold on. You're telling me you had pasta at this fucking pub? We were desperate. We're down bad. We're mentally, physically, gastro, esophagally ruined. And you're like, let's have some TGI Friday's jambalaya pasta to really set things off. That was the only thing that had freaking veggies. I wasn't about to eat. I can't have another plate full of beans again. I'm a little worried. I'm a little, I'm just a little, after all this food talk, I'm honestly a little concerned for you both. I just want.

I just, we need you to, because I like the record a lot, and I want you guys to kind of live. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because LP2 is, I'm sure, around the corner, and we've got to take care of it. Guys, are we working out on the road, or are we kind of letting it slide? Absolutely not. Yeah, we've been with people who brought yoga mats and stretched and had routines before they go on stage, and we're just the ones that are kind of hanging out. Now you guys don't even brush your teeth anymore, huh? Yeah, I never did that. Because I just think that if you're going to try to maintain your youthful physique and get these Rolling Stone covers and shit, this is something we've got to think about. This is something we've got to think about. Also, rocking every night, it's hard on the body. It is hard. I have neck problems for my guitar. It really hurts. So you're saying the Telecaster's hanging so strangely on your neck? From my axe, yeah. My SD is just so low and I look so cool. That's fucking sick. That is fucking sick. Have you tried rubbing a little CBD on there? I actually haven't. I'm like afraid of that stuff for some reason. Why? It's fake. I know, but... It's fake. Shout out to all of our CBD sponsors listening. The idea of just like walking into a store and... asking or like looking for that already just gives me anxiety so why are you chiefing are you hitting the loud pack regular i absolutely i haven't smoked weed in like two years i'm a big i like smoking weed a lot let's go so what's the what's the issue with chiefing were you getting anxious did you just not like what it was doing to your your vocal no i get really anxious i don't understand how people can do it and be normal like when i'm high like the worst Case scenario always just comes to my mind and I can't stop thinking about it. And it's scary. Sounds like you need Jesus. Yeah, it does sound like that. So in high school, when you were smoking weed through kind of, you know, hiding it, blown out the window from the parents' crib in Brentwood, was that causing, was that, was that. Like not too far. Did you not have.

Was the anxiety not hitting yet because you were young and carefree and now you have all these responsibilities? Yeah, I was young. I was carefree. I was hitting the bong in Malibu, smoking out the window. Hot. Honestly, hot. Yeah. Ita was there. We were chilling. We were writing music, starting a band. We had a pet turtle. It was like super vibes. No, I think it's like moving away from home. Honestly, like I hate to be. I hate to get a little deep or morbid, but being away from home makes me really anxious when I smoke. I can smoke when I visit my parents because everything's fine. I feel very safe and comforted. That's because your parents are definitely high as well is what it sounds like to me. My dad is fully high. Dad is chiefing. Big time. Because when you get high at your parents' house, you're like, all snacks are there. Your mom's doing laundry for you. You have cable TV. It's clean. And then at your house, you're like... I have like old cereal. I hate my life. Yeah. Well, I also just am like, yeah, I get like paranoid thoughts. Like my parents are going to like die. I don't know. Like, it's like not good. Okay. So I have to like, yeah. It sounds like you're not smoking enough. You have to break on through to the other side, my friend. I also just don't think I'm funny or interesting or cool at all when I'm high. Are you a Virgo? I'm a Pisces. Opposite sign. Knew it. What are you? We're both Virgos. Wow, we're both Pisces. You guys are both our opposite. Opposite in a good way or a bad way? In a good way. Opposite means we complete each other. It's like the yin-yang. Yin-yang-yang. I remember when I was younger and I would go to my parents' house and smoke weed. I had the opposite. I would be in the basement. There's a door in the basement. I'd go outside. I'd blow down my swisher. Come back in. And I knew my mom knew what the fuck was going on. She wasn't happy about it, but she had to let it rock because I was a damn adult even though she was doing my laundry. And I just – I don't – I had the exact opposite effect where I was like – I was just – I guess because my parents don't chief, I felt the paranoia more when they were around looking at me. And let me just give you a little piece of advice.

Don't kind of drool on oxys during Christmas because they will notice that. They will. They will kind of. Chris, Chris, they're from Malibu. They already knew that. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's like it's it's something that people do catch on to in the same way the weed smoke could kind of be a giveaway. For sure. For sure. I feel I feel this. I'm like in between you guys because like my parents started smoking weed when I moved to college. Don't know why. I know why because you left the house and they were like, all right, well. I mean, true. I was the last one. They were free. They were free. Life is boring without you. You need drugs. Oh, yeah. That's empty nest. You have no idea what those two freaks are doing now that you're gone. Oh, baby. I don't even want to think about that. So what did you guys do in L.A. when you were in high school? What was the move? Where are we hanging? Besides the Grove, of course. Besides the Grove. That's awesome. My house. Yeah. It was always like this. Yeah, we'd post up at my house. Smoke a lot of weed. I don't know. Where else? The smell. Downtown. Speaking of yin and yang, I feel like your parents' house and the smell are different vibes. You need both of those things for Mama to synthesize and come together. Big time. Jason, you've been to the smell, right? Yeah, I've been to the smell a bunch of times. I feel like once I have kids, I'm going to be like, you guys can do fucking fentanyl. Just don't go to the smell, please. I actually didn't really do like that many drugs at the smell. I feel like the smell was pretty tame because you always had to drive there. So I would always like drive myself to the smell, you know? Yeah. Not, not so much in a druggie way, just in like, uh, the neighborhood can be a little. Scary at night. Yeah, definitely. So did you ever live on your own in L.A. or did you go straight to New York? Well, I went to New Orleans for four years and then I came here. Oh, God, what a shithole. With like a severe drinking problem. Did you go to Tulane? I did, yeah. Damn, okay. You got something to fall back on. I like this. The band's going well. Yeah, I have a degree. You have a degree. That's smart. Did you say Tulane was gnarly?

Yeah, well, it was just, sorry, are you making fun of my word choice? No, no, no. I'm saying I use a very, I'm from Orange County, so this is all, you're speaking my language is what I'm saying. Okay, cool. And I like the way that it was just juxtaposed. Tulane was gnarly. With a credited university. Well, it was just like a lot, I don't know, I saw some shit there, like brat. culture there is like real. I don't know. It was shocking. You didn't have that over at the Country Mart. Definitely did not have that at the Country Mart. Remember when we saw that girl fall down? Yeah. We saw some shit there, dude. What do you mean you saw a girl fall down? No, it was the first time Eater came and visited me and we had just finished seeing T-Pain play. I had just finished seeing T-Pain play. So Teddy, we had seen T-Pain. we had seen T-Pain, right? That's how the night started. We had seen T-Pain and then we were just chilling outside the boot, which is like the drug store, liquor store that's like attached to campus basically. And I'm just, we both distinctly remember this girl was just like running and then just failed like concrete, like doorhead to the concrete, like crazy. And then she just didn't get up there for a while. and then we went we went to try to like help and her friends were all there like no so you saw some you saw someone die is what you're saying yeah those tory those tory birch chicks don't want help from you two sticking pokes you know what i mean exactly literally literally get away from me i mean i've only i've only been to new orleans once and i i berlin new orleans are my two least favorite places like i just don't get it really and That's right. And it sounds like he doesn't drink. So, yeah, I don't drink. I mean, what's the point? But you said you were there for four years and you don't seem to maybe think favorably or feel a need to return. No, I love it. I love it. Like, honestly, if it were my choice, I would still be living. Really? Honestly, I really love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like my favorite. I think it's my favorite city in the States. OK, you've been to Florida. I've not been to Florida. Well, there you go, because New Orleans is just.

florida if it thought it was european it's not it's not though like it is from a tourist perspective for sure but once you are now a tourist you don't think i looked at condé nas traveler before i went well it's just like i don't know well i also went through a really like formative period of my life there so it's like you know like my 18 year old through 22 year old self lived in new orleans so it's very sentimental for me in that way but yes i did develop a severe Yeah, I was about to say, we all feel a very close relationship to the first place where we kind of discovered binge drinking and how good it can be. So I understand that. And I'm glad it cost your parents $200,000 for you to learn that. Yeah, I mean, my student loans are about to be crazy. And then I moved to New York and then I moved to New York with a couple of my New Orleans friends and the friend group that we started hanging out with here. who didn't live in new orleans were like it's crazy how much you guys drink and we were like you guys can't drink this much like this is just normal for us and we all kind of had a rude awakening catch up pussies literally yeah exactly that happened to me with cocaine as well because In Atlanta, everybody just did so much coke, and we'd go to their places, and they're like, dude, relax. It's a fucking Tuesday. And I was like, what do you mean? This is just what people do. Totally. But sometimes you need that slap in the face to remind you of where you come from. Yeah, absolutely. Your roots. Yeah, I feel like you guys, you're in the Big Apple at the right age. If you go too late, you need a lot of money, and that's a problem. That's a problem. And that, I think, is stifling. Because I have friends who are like, yeah, I think I'm going to go. I'm like, bro, what the fuck are you talking about? You're 35. Yeah, like, are you going to live with roommates? Yeah, like, unless you got real bread, like, it ain't worth it. Like, you can't drive your little Subaru from Silver Lake and just think you're going to be good. I mean, we don't have any money, really, either. But you guys are well on your way to becoming pretty wealthy.

In terms of indie musicians. That's great. That would be awesome. But also, I would notice on our email where we set it up with your quote-unquote team, there was six different emails on this chain. And we've had Diplo and Interpol and big famous rappers. No one has ever had this many people CC'd on there. What's going on here? What kind of underground deal do you have with a record label? Everyone that we work with has some sort of a day-to-day person. Our manager has a day-to-day person. technically manages us, you know what I mean? I'm familiar with Irving Azoff. I'm familiar with Irving Azoff and how that whole thing kind of works. It's not a secret. When you manage everybody, you manage nobody is what I said. You're saying your day-to-day does Harry Styles and Mama. It's tough to get them on the phone. They're super busy. In 20 years, when you guys die, I'm going to re-upload this episode. Fucking crazy numbers. You guys both work jobs? Is that true? Yeah. Big time. I work like 40 hours a week. Damn, brother. Where do you work if you want to shout it out? If not, that's cool. I can shout it out. Okay, so we work at Laser Wolf in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. It's on the roof of the Hoxton Hotel. It's like a new Brooklyn restaurant. It opened up like two months ago. It's doing really well. It's like really, really busy. Okay, so you're serving overpriced appetizers to German tourists. Basically, yeah. Are we married to the name? It's the second location. So we're in deep on that. So you're deeply involved in restaurant culture and kind of like, what did you think of the bear on FX? I hated it. I couldn't get through it. I'm not going to lie. Was it too triggering? Bad writing? Yeah, bad writing. It was like, corner, corner, corner. What did I think we'd do all day? I don't know. I thought it was way too novelty for people that have never worked in restaurants. They're like, oh my god. I watched a little bit with my boyfriend who's worked as a chef for like...

six or seven years and he was like this is okay so bae so bae it's not accurate you've seen him sharpen his knives to say in a game and he's doing this for a career bae oh yeah yeah my bae yeah yeah well no no no he was not as a career i mean like as just like a means to make money okay is he a toxic line cook hottie they're trending right now definitely yeah yeah he's like he's like chain smoking uh skateboarder line cook bro It's unbelievable because the way that skateboarders are having sex, historically it's always been good. It's always been good. But in the last five years, the scales have tipped in a way where I don't know if anybody else is having sex. It's just skateboarders. In Bushwick, at least. I mean, does he have a bed frame? Yes, yes. Had to think about it. Had to think about it. It's like a metal. It's just like one of the metal ones where the mattress is just on it. There's no headboard or anything. No headboard. That's okay. That's okay. It's not on the floor. It's not on the floor. It's not on the floor. Follow-up question. Is it in the kitchen? It is not. No, no, no. But he has. he has lived in apartments. In New Orleans, everything is shotgun style. There has been a phase of his life where his mattress was on the floor in the living room. Wow. That's just Nolan things, bro. Exactly. That's what I've heard people call good dick, is what they say. I've never said that, but I've heard that from other people. Congratulations to you. Thank you. That's excellent. I haven't done a lot of bush wicking in so long that I'm feeling connected like maybe I should come visit. If you see a white guy with a hazmat suit on walking around, that'll be him. Does Laser Wolf have limo parking or is it kind of more of an Uber situation? Yeah, it's more of an Uber situation for sure. Could you explain what their menu vibe is? Like coastal New American pizza?

It's Israeli food. It's Israeli food, and it's a prefix. Prefix? Yeah, so basically all you have to do is order your grill item, and then we do the rest for you. Okay, does the chef ask that we put the whole order in at first? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to. That's how you do it. And then you guys will course it out. Okay. Absolutely. Okay, that's exciting. What are you wearing? The murdered-out hokas? You got danskos? Oh, yeah, I'm wearing danskos. And like a Hawaiian shirt. Okay. So you dress like a proud boy. Got it. This is great. I love a working class. You know, I'm tired of talking to these highfalutin rich guys, you know, that have their guitar collections and their private planes and their buses. You know what I mean? It's nice to kind of get back to my roots with some salt of the earth, hardworking. middle-class musicians, blue-collar musicians. When they're home from the road, they got to earn their keep just like the rest of us. Yeah, the only thing they have to worry about is their manager and label telling them, can you guys do more TikToks? And you guys got, you know, I don't know if you guys even have that problem yet, right? We have that problem. We do, yeah. Okay, that means you have made it. Yeah. We're bad at that. I'm telling you, the app is not user-friendly. I can't figure out how to... I've been trying to make this... The app being not user-friendly sounds insane because it seems like very... children do. There are millions of two-year-olds who use the app daily. You're a college graduate. You're a shredder. What's the issue? I'm having a problem. I've been trying... You know that genre of TikTok where you upload a bunch of fun videos and it's like, oh my god, my life is so cool. It's like a whirlwind thing. I'm eating a pizza. I'm on a scooter. I'm skinny dipping. I'm so loco. And then you put it to a specific... part in a song our song i can't figure out how to put it i keep trying it won't let me do it to this one part of the song that i want to put it to okay so you so you were just like fuck it i'm putting the maroon 5n song you guys can go fuck yourselves no i just i just deleted the drafts i just haven't even thought about it if there's anyone listening who works at tiktok customer support send us an email and we're gonna get to the bottom of this one so okay you guys are you guys get all gussied up you're coming into the big city

Saturday night. What's the dream Saturday night in money-making Manhattan? Manhattan. That's right. It's like an island that's close to where you live. No, I don't know. If we're doing something in Manhattan, we're most likely getting dinner. And then where I like to go in Manhattan is Winnie's. Okay, okay. That feels like cheating because you do that for a living. But sure, that's what you're into. I mean, you know. It's just good vibes there. Chris, music is her passion. I understand that music is your passion, but what's the go-to karaoke? Because I'll dust your ass at Third Eye Blind, so don't even try it. Well, I don't think you're about to say what I'm going to say. Say the classic one, and then I'll say the other one. Okay, well, our go-to is a ballroom blitz. We do a mean ballroom blitz where we really can man the entire room. Actually, the very first time I ever did karaoke as a child was ballroom blitz. It's a really good karaoke song. It engages the audience. What we did last time at Winnie's was Time Warp. It fucking rocked. People were going crazy. Everyone was doing the Time Warp. That's a compelling performance. I would expect nothing less from two performers. I would love to take you down my karaoke road. It's a Goo Goo Dolls. kind of third eye blind i think if i pulled up the lyrics you guys have been to grocery stores before so you've probably heard those songs so we can kind of we can kind of get you we can get you up to speed but i i mean harmony wise i'm more of a tenor if i'm pushing myself um but but i can go kind of matt berenger the national low bear if that helps you okay you know i could go very low like like it's it's it's not boys to men like fucked up bass guy but it's it It adds a kind of layer of texture that I think would work nicely with what you guys are doing. Cool, yeah. That's your lowest note right now. Look, don't put me on the spot. I haven't warmed up. He inhaled. I don't have the oxygen backstage. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. We went on tour with someone who did that every night. Yeah. Are you telling me wet leg? That chick speaks. No, no, no. What the fuck? There's highs and lows to every tour. You know that.

And I think Florida could be a high for you guys unless you're hitting, I don't know, Richmond? We are. Virginia beat. When you guys do Tallahassee, are we going to get T-Pain on the horn for like one or two on the encore? Dude. Are we doing T-Pain? No, we're not. Are you guys really T-Pain heads? Yeah. I mean, he brought down the house. Yeah. But you know what? You know what my critique was? He did half of every song. That's how most of those rappers do it. I know, but I was just. What do you mean those rappers? Like the legacy. Okay, hold on. Like the legacy I had hit back in the day and now I'm like making a living off of them. That's what I call a good save. Good save. You're like a damn FC Barcelona keeper. That is interesting because many rap shows, because you'll have like the first verse. The chorus, the second verse, the chorus, the third verse, the chorus. And it can get a little repetitive. And the crowd, you can see it in their face where it's like, okay, that was awesome. Oh, God, they're doing the third verse. What if we did that? So you have to use the explosion sound effect and move to the next song. Exactly. But you guys are up there and you're like, we have a 45-minute time slot. We barely have enough songs to fit that in. We're playing these songs all the way to the end. You know what I mean? We should do that. I'm so down. You should do it. Get a machine that does the explosion sound as soon as you finish the first course. What the fuck is up, Tallahassee? That'd be really cool if you did that in maybe a less than hip-hop market that wouldn't understand it quite as well. What the fuck is up, Vassar College? Thank you for joining us. 7.2, the album is called Household Name. It's in stores now. Thank you to our friends at Polyvinyl for putting that one out. It was our pleasure to speak with you guys today. Thank you for taking the time, guys. We appreciate it. Of course. Thanks for having us. This was so much fun. It was awesome. Good. We'll see you on Bedford Avenue. Talk to you soon. See you later. Bye.