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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? We're here. It's a Sunday. a little later than usual because of the daylight savings time. Um, I had an early night last night because I did, uh, go to get my wound checked at the city MD and the kind doctor told me, I gave me a, like a splint I have to wear because the cut goes into an area of my finger that can bend. And if it keeps bending, it'll just rip the stitch out. So now I have this, you know, stint on my finger. And I was at Cafe Andrew Raw like an hour ago. And two different gay guys thought it was a Rick Owens piece of jewelry. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Two different guys, two different gay guys stopped me like, I love your ring. And I just let them kind of look at it for a second. oh wait it's not a ring i'm like you're kidding me i'm like do i look like the kind of guy who's gonna wear a rick owens ring with this like brooks brothers shirt like is that really what you think you know what i mean so it feels like a portlandia skit i know i know it feels it's very funny and both of them thought it was really funny after i explained it to them but i i just like that's where we're at now that's how big rick owens is i guess is what that that really well but also be proud of yourself because how cool like

If this happened to you, then maybe it's happened to other people before, but you, a person who is a Brooks Brothers wearing type motherfucker. You're able to be like, actually, this is not a piece from Rick Owens, who I am familiar with despite how I look and present myself. Exactly. So it's cool. Despite the fit of my clothing, I do know who Rick Owens is. All I'm saying is that you are perhaps more verse than we give you credit for typically. Yes. No, look, I took it as a compliment, of course, but I just this this thing is. It's changed the look. The Rick ain't cheap, honey. Yeah, I got four stitches, and it's fine. This is my HR Geiger-inspired ringlet that I got at Departamento, not on sale. Exactly. I bought this full price. But yeah, I got the four stitches. Now I got this metal stint. I'm still able to do push-ups and cardio, so we're good to go over here. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're good to go. I mean, I'm also, I wanted to tell you something that I'm very proud of. Damn, I like this black gratitude coming at me today. It's good. I am seven days clean from dessert. And I just want to thank my sponsors and all the people that have been there for me. Who the fuck are your sponsors? I'm joking. I'm joking. Alex and I went to Polo Bar last night, resisted dessert. I felt like a king. I'm proud of you, and I want to know how your body's feeling, what it's looking like. Is the six-pack, eight-pack, 12-pack, bussing, what's good? Are you sleeping better? I wouldn't go that far. It's only been seven days. But honestly, I think that I know that sugar is the enemy, and we've been told that countless times. I think it's Al-Qaeda. I really do feel better. You do feel better. It's crazy. Yeah, 100%. 100%. But it could be the similar thing that I get from not drinking or doing drugs, where it is just like a superiority complex. Being able to resist anything that's good gives me a high.

And it makes my life less pleasurable, of course, but that's, I guess, what I'm into. No, I mean, those are those little tweaks that you have to make when you think, you know, like, hey, I'm pretty much doing everything I can. You know, I work out every day. I starve myself. I hate myself, et cetera, et cetera. And it's those little things that separate the theys from the thems of, like, those two pounds or whatever it is is what turns you. And I think you're going to get there. It's the final frontier. It's the last thing I have left of bad stuff that I do. So you're a week in. So we have like a month until Coachella. That's why you're doing it? Yeah, obviously. I'm kind of hosting the Brandy Melville house and all of the clothes are crop top. So I don't really have a choice. It was kind of... chosen for me you're easy you know you're out easy easy you know you're out congrats man have you but you and but lastly you you're not trying to do any because usually when i do a restrictive diet like that where like everything's fine i'm just gonna do fodmap you know keto pale whatever it is and then like on day three i start kind of bargaining with myself addict behavior style where it's like well if i make this um cheesecake out of date syrup it's technically not sure you know mango steam powder i mean that would be the equivalent of that is me being like well i just take cbd it's not weed yeah it's just you know what i mean it's kind of a similar thing so um so date date syrup is a gateway syrup is what you're saying for sure you know that's gonna lead nowhere good um there's nowhere good but yeah anyway but i i also want to check in obviously on you um i saw some photos of you at horses with the boot on, so you're taking it out in public, you're taking it to the Prada rave. Did you put any stickers on it? Did anybody sign it? Did you finally put a Thrasher sticker on it, or did you resist? No, I was actually talking to a friend of the show, Mary-Kate, from Neiman Marcus, and she actually was one of the people that invited me to the Prada experience that was happening in Los Angeles last weekend.

And she was like, yeah, I heard about the foot, you know, sending my condolences. Maybe you could think about putting one of the little triangle Prada emblems on the boot somewhere. And I was like, that's actually very funny and a very good joke. If I pulled up and there was like a kind of nice, like nicer than it needs to be. You know, I bought a 500 pack of Prada, you know, enamel metal thingies on Alibaba. I super glue it onto the boot. It looks kind of good. That'd be fun. That looks better than most people in Prada, to be honest. Not red carpet. I'm talking about the nylon broke boys. You're talking about the Jeff Goldblum flame trucker reseller shirt? The shirt that haunted us all forever when they make some of the best clothes of all time. I saw a couple little queens wearing that last weekend, and I was like, no, no, no. Well, that's archival. So I just want to be clear. You went to the opening night. It's giving outlet. You missed Wheezy F Baby. I did, yeah. It was Thursday and Friday. The Thursday one, it was a little less star-studded and packed full of cool hotties. I can imagine. Trust me, I saw who the crowd was on Instagram, and cool hotties is very nice of you. It was sort of by design. Due to my handicap, I was a little... You know, nervous, anxious, not super jazzed on like going to an event in a warehouse downtown. You don't want to get your injured foot caught on the Keith Haring mobile. You know what I mean? It could be. You got it caught on the Keith Haring merry-go-round. On the Haring carousel? Yeah, we could have had a problem. Yeah, we could have had a problem. And that would have been bad because I don't think Drake can take another hit on this. So if you sued him for that, it'd be bad. But it was good. I had a lot of open space to sort of walk around. There was tables and chairs, so I was able to kind of post up to enjoy some of the music. The music vibe on Thursday was less Lil Wayne. It was less curated by Drake, and it was more of kind of like a reggae boat cruise. That sounds pretty good, honestly. It's oozing product. That sounds better than Lil Wayne.

I mean, if he's DJing, I don't know if he performed or if he DJed. The first Ensemble had one of the smartest bets in music, which is to have a hip-hop violinist. That always works well. Oh, let's go. We saw 21 Savage on SNL when he was... When he performed with a hip-hop violinist. And that's the thing that the hood always wants. Yeah, I've seen Tiny Desk concert and what they're trying to do over there. Didn't Licky Lee play? Or am I making that up? I did not see Licky Lee on Thursday. But actually, there was a band that played afterwards that they started out kind of like a jazzy scat kind of vibe. Okay. Which people really did not like. And then it sort of evolved into a more horn section version of like a James Brown concert. Okay. And that part was actually kind of sick. It was like a little like DC go-go kind of jump up. It was fun. And people were just kind of like, you know, I'm here. I'm dressed like a techno thought, obviously, because I'm at a Prada warehouse downtown. Obviously, that's what I went with. Yeah, I'm obviously dressed for Belkheim. So people at first were like, I'm a Latinx thought reseller. I don't listen to James Brown, and I don't listen to tons of music with horn sections in it. But people sort of gave in, and they eventually just started boogieing down, and it was kind of cool and sweet. Everyone was just getting funky. I mean, that's actually good, but it's funny to me because that's kind of unassailable music. You know what I mean? That's something that we can all agree is good, and it takes a level of talent to pull it off. That's true. So I'm glad that the Latinx thought resellers were able to come around. It's rare that you see a crowd won over. Because they really had the cards stacked against them. It's a party where you think you're just going to see the homie Miles and Armand and whoever DJing some slinky, sexy, fun party music. And they're like, oh, shit, we've got to play on this. We've got to entertain these white boys. And they really did turn it up. I was impressed. The coolest part about the carousel rides there were because of safety or insurance or liability reasons,

The merry-go-rounds were not legally able to operate while a live band was playing. If there's a DJ playing, that's fine. But if there's a live band playing, if you're riding the carousel, you have to stop and just sit there on the carousel until the band finishes a song. But the first band, their 20-minute set... was not a collection of five songs it was like a piece okay that did not really have an end to it so you have to sit for a minute so there is a group of people on this carousel just stuck there for 20 minutes watching a hip-hop violinist play and that was a treat to admire that's cool okay i did enjoy watching that This party has everything, and I wanted to, if you're in L.A. They also had Trey Past Hot Dogs, which is so Prada. That's nice, though. Well, they went carnival mode. I think that's smart. Yeah, if you're in L.A., Armand, a friend of ours, and he's been on the show, and he has a great podcast called Are We On Air? He opened the, he took over the kiosk across from the Chateau Marmont, where I used to go buy Blunt Wraps and Avion. when I would stay at the Standard. It has been on Sunset Boulevard for literally ever. He took it over and made it kind of an Are We On Air kiosk, and it's got books from Idea. It's got high-end, it looks like a high-end sound system as well. Yeah, his gay ass loves a kiosk, doesn't he? It's very European to say kiosk. I kind of like it, because most people don't know what it means. For me, a kiosk is where you go pay your cell phone bill. It has nothing to do with buying a book about Ibiza that costs $18,000. Yeah, no, you're right. But I hope I don't miss it. I think it's permanent, though. I think it's going to last for a while, so I want to go check it out. I also wanted to talk about... Wait, really quick. I want to do a quick shout-out before. A friend of the show, his name is Mark, with a C. He does a wine export company called Freiche, like creme fraiche wine. And he sent over a case of bottles, and they're all...

Bomb as hell. So if you're looking for some wine, you don't know about wine, just hit him up. He'll ship the shit to your house, and it's good. I hope he paid you for that. The Audemars family has joined forces with friend of the show, John Mayer. I saw that. He's releasing his own watch, but they called him something very interesting in the announcement. And Brandon and I talked about it, and I've talked about it with a few other watch industry people. They called him a... The new creative conduit of Audemars. And I, as a person who is absolutely full of shit, I've never heard of a more full of shit title than that. And I'm just so impressed that it took a blue chip high-end watch brand and one of the greatest musicians of our generation to come up with this. That it wasn't created by... You know, an ad agency. The people over at 72 and Stinky didn't come up with this one. Yeah, this is not an Ogilvy brainchild. This is from the brain of guitarist John Mayer and European watch manufacturer. And that is something that is special. But also, you do know that there is still a 99% chance that that was... Invented by a creative agency. Of course, of course. Yes, I'm trying to keep that out of my mind. Santa Claus is real. Santa Claus is real. I believe in it. And imagine John Mayer in Switzerland with his mole skin out just kind of coming up with some different titles that he wants to be called to see what Audemars will agree to. I've been really kind of vibing with the word conduit lately. I don't know what that means or what that looks like right now. I tried to work it into a song, and I just couldn't make it work lyrically, but I think for this project, it would make a lot of sense, actually. It doesn't seem like something that is in the vocabulary of the good people at Aldemals, but it is more John Mary, just in terms of his brand association with the dead as of late, because I would say the only time I would ever hear somebody use the phrase creative conduit in a...

earnest way was describing trying to defend their drug problem like a corporate guy trying to explain to his hr person why he got caught using drugs why he pissed dirty why the psilocybin showed up in the piss test he's been microdosing as a creative conduit and it's really been helping my keynotes i don't understand but yeah i found that i found that to be really funny and cool because i felt like it wasn't being talked to like I was talking about people I knew, but I was like, how is this not the number one comment on this post? But obviously making your own AP is kind of crazy. That's like an unheard of, you know what I mean? Do you think it's better or worse than John Mayer's G-Shock? It's kind of a toss-up as to which one is better. Oh, it's much better. No, it's much better. No, it's cool. Actually, his G-Shock, like every other G-Shock collab, is... you know atrocious looking i hate but kind of funny some people could pull it off chris obviously not a fan but when you when you hear celebrity collaborating with a watch company or anything like that you don't always really expect it to be a winner and and i looked at his watch and i was like oh this is understated but elegant and kind of flashy in a low-key way and you know it looked sick i was into i wonder what the I didn't check on the price. That's not really my concern since I'm not super in the market for any jewelry right now. We don't look at price tags. We don't look at price tags. But yeah, I thought that was very funny. And it really made my day. I also want to apologize to a friend of the show, Nomi Fry, because I did not make it to her birthday soiree last night. And it's partly... um due to rain injured but my injury was like i i felt a little self-conscious about my big finger um so happy birthday and that party is a known rager last year michael stipe came at 3 a.m i was already gone of course um but it's a known rager and um i i didn't you know i does she do it at the house it's at it's at her friend she runs out rays no it's yeah it's at ray's green point the new one uh no it's um

She does it at her friend Al Freeman's house in Williamsburg, and it was just, last year it was like sweat coming down the walls, like tight beat, like every person you've ever seen in Dime Square on Dean Kissick's Instagram is in the fucking building. You know what I mean? But it was, I'm upset that I missed it, but she knows that I love her. Thanks for the invite, Nomi. I think she did invite us, actually. I think she did send the invite to you and me in the same chat, to be honest, but... She knows you don't live in New York. You know, it's okay. You weren't expected to be there. You weren't expected to be there. All right, well. It's a good thing we were talking about APs because our guest today, we do get into watches, and he is definitely not buying off-the-rack John Mayer collab watches. He's buying Red Camo, Bust Down, Royal Oak, et cetera. His name is Vaddy, spelled Varg. He's a producer, musician guy from Sweden. Not associated with Blade, Young Lean, Sad Boys, all those kind of people. He's a techno, weirdo guy, artist. But he also happens to be maybe top five, top four guests of How Long Gone in a good long while. I just finished editing our chat that we had. it's just so good wow jason okay let's let's not disappoint anybody um but yeah i agree it was a blast and he i mean honestly he's sick no and you you would you would be saying the same thing if you listen to the edit i don't listen to this podcast that's not my job my job is to make it you know what i mean and if i listen to it i think that would be concerning i don't want you to listen to it i'm just saying if you were in the editing suite with them jeans i like yeah you would you would you would be singing a similar song i've seen your editing suite uh and suite is generous but i know what you mean you need to make it like an edit bay like a like a movie guy you know like super dark huge monitor right that'd be a good super dark huge monitor various calendars on the wall with masking tape of different colors exactly yeah yeah exactly uh

Yeah, but no, that was really fun to talk to him. Michael Bay has his own seat. Sorry, go ahead. It was really fun to talk to him, and I think you guys will enjoy it. We'll be back next week with more podcasts, and we are going to be announcing our 2024 tour dates in the near-ish future. We're coming to some new places, which is exciting, and more on that soon. All right, thank you for listening. HowLongGone.com is the website. Follow at VimJeans on Instagram, and we'll see you next week. Thanks. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable, and they're just easy but still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts.

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Like, the Venom squad in Stockholm used to be amazing. They used to, like, film us and, like, you know, go up to our, like, partners and shit and be like, yo, tell your boyfriend to, like, stop hitting his layoff and stuff like that. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah, but it ain't that personal no more, which is, like, you know, very boring. But, like, I heard, like, a guy from my old crew, like, that was, like, a big, like, anti-fa, you know, like, anti-racist dude. Like, he's out now, like, doing, like... far right wing like gun training with like one of these old Swedish vandal squad dudes you know it's like you know now they can bond over some like whack like you know like foil hat theory shit so I think like on both ends of the line like a feeder rider or like vandal squad cop like like same kind of like shitty person behind you know you're seeing some similarities just on a different side of the line yeah for sure it takes one to know one big time big time um okay we will not talk about your your graffiti career i mean we can't we can definitely talk about graffiti in some ways you know like it has been my life you know like it's and you can definitely tell in the music and shit too that like what i do is still like i always been more for like street bombing mentality type stuff like very like american inspired you know like american graffitis you know has been like a big inspiration to me you know with like two ups and tags and just hitting spots all over you know and i feel it's the same with music you know like it's the same when you go out djing in another country and stuff like i bomb up my life like dj worm or work to tm or whatever like during my shows you know it's the same shit like you get up you know it is it really is as somebody who i also come from a graffiti and dj background oh that's i didn't really ever consider that but it's it is there there are a lot of through lines there it makes sense i think so yeah okay guys i'm gonna head out you guys can kind of okay talk about raving and graffiti and i'll i'll just i'll kind of listen in this is what people want okay so you um you said right before we started talking that you were laying in bed enjoying a a non-alcoholic beverage yes i'm drinking a non-alcoholic

Fruit Loops beer. Fruit Loops beer? And why? Are you taking a break from alcohol? Yeah, for the first time in my life, I'm taking a break from alcohol, yeah. Congratulations. I was watching your boiler room set a little bit before we hopped on, and you seem to... finish an entire bottle of Hennessy during your 52-minute set. Dude, that's the thing, you know? Like, the thing is, like, I'm a big guy, right? And I've been, like, I mean, I'm from the north of Sweden. Like, it's cold as shit. And I can drink, you know? Like, I never get fucked up. Like, I don't get memory loss. Like, I don't really get hungover. But, like, I started realizing that, like, I mean, I'm 33 years old now. Like, I've been drinking, like... hugging bottles of hemdog since i was like a baby you know like and now i was like maybe i wonder like now when i can drink like i drink a whole bottle during one set like yeah maybe like i wonder how it is being like not drunk or like you know like it's not like i've been like on my alcoholic seat either like that's the thing like i never get really addicted to anything like that you know like I quit smoking and it's like day to day. Same with alcohol. It was like day to day and I haven't really looked back since. Now it's been like a few months and I kind of love it, you know? Congratulations. That's great. I mean, do you feel good, like physically? Do you feel a difference? I mean, not really. I mean, I still be hitting the backwood all day, you know? I mean, I'm still kicked back like that, you know? Well, the best part about hitting the backwood is it's a zero-calorie treat. Word up. But, you know, like, it kind of brings... It leads to calories. Word up. Like, you will still raid the fridge, though. Okay, so you're the type to smoke and then raid the fridge, is what you're saying. I mean, it depends, though. Like, my girlfriend makes crazy food, you know? Like, she makes some really good food. So, like... Depends, though. Today, I know for a fact that tonight I'm going to have roast potatoes with roast chicken and this crazy fig salad with artichokes and stuff. Beautiful. And so I'm going to hit the backwood and definitely raid the fridge. Have you lost weight from quitting alcohol?

I don't know yet, but I think I will, which is dope. Losing weight is dope. Losing weight is dope. That's just kind of an added bonus. Cherry on top. But I kind of like being a big guy, though, too. I lost 20 kilos during COVID. I went on some crazy... Also, being sober for a while, I still drank alcohol from now to then, some beer with dinner and shit. i was working out every day like hanging out with my parents in the north of sweden like just cooking good food and i lost like 20 kilos and i mean honestly i looked super wacky i was like real this is i don't this is sort of on but i know what you mean like um like jonah hill when jonah hill loses the way for real is it like that it's kind of like that i mean shout out jonah hill though like i think i think he looked he's he's a hot guy still you know But, like, it just made me kind of look like, I don't know. Like, I want to feel like a Viking, but it made me feel like a knight. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Like, fucking Timothee Scholeming type. Did you close? I mean, that's enough weight where you might have had to get some new gear, or did you just go full oversized and hope for the best? I mean, I love oversized. I've always been rocking like the XXL man since I was, like, 14 years old. It was nothing for you. Like, shit never changed. No, I always been rocking the same size. I like the oversized stuff. I want to know how hard it is to get marijuana in Sweden that's actually good. Is it tough? No, I mean... Not for me is what he said to you. He said, yeah, maybe we're some of these losers. These Nordic dorks, but not me. No, for real. These Nordic dorks don't know how to find this shit. But no, I mean, it depends though. It depends. The port game has kind of changed. A lot of the... Moroccan hash and stuff comes straight to Sweden now via like ports of Gothenburg and shit like this so you know like the game has changed so like good weed yeah good hash like bro like we have better hash than you got in America but with the weed game no I'm not firing shots like shout out

Shout out cookies, shout out, you know, like, I love America, you know, like America, Cali is crazy. Yeah, I mean, Americans don't even really, there isn't really even a market for hash here that much. No, I've been thinking about that, you know, like I've been thinking about that, like how you get the American, like, no, like the Moroccan, like Spanish hash bricks on the American market, like that would be a billion dollar business. I used to smoke a lot of hash in Atlanta, Jason. like there was a lot i think i remember saying that there was like a i grew up in atlanta and there was like a one of the drug dealers just always had hash you know and i would just be like all right fuck it i'll buy it and you would just you know i'd put it in a joint like you'd line the paper with it and roll it up but like or you would just like hot knife it like real addict style but it was nice yeah but i mean like that's the thing like sweden is like it's amazing now like you get that shit listen like i think for everybody like with trap music exploding worldwide i think like that made like every second like child a drug dealer especially like you know white middle class kids from sweden they also sell drugs now like everybody want to like push just for the sake of pushing so you can like put it in a song or like yeah get laid by it you know what i'm saying yeah that's the same here that's the same here it's just it feels crazier when it's swedish people than when it's suburban americans as a member as a member of the hip-hop community do you feel a certain responsibility for that no i i only like i only push positive thinking man like I love life. I love animals and stuff like this. You know, I push forward. You love animals? What kind of animals do you love? I love animals. Animals has been my life. My whole family loves animals. That's been the lead of my life. Did you grow up on a farm? Okay, well, top five animals dead or alive. Top five animals dead or alive. Oh shit, top five animals. Oh shit, shit. So once back in the day, I had this fucking ambition of this golden fucking armadillo, you know?

No, I don't know. Armadillo, bro. Yeah, I know what an armadillo is. What is it? Is it golden armadillo? Like a bust-down armadillo chain? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, like a bust-down armadillo. Okay, just to clarify. I remember it was like a hazy fucking crashed-out night in Detroit. I remember scooping one of those motherfuckers off the street, and I was like... Dom like imagine like you know there's pink ones like pink baby armadillos that are fucking cute you know but like imagine a golden one like a flexing armadillo like a bust down armadillo that's top one it doesn't exist but it's top one okay okay so we were able to use fictional animals as well as ones on planet earth yeah I'm starting to uh when you just described scooping up in armadillo in detroit i'm starting to realize how you and chloe wise are friends yeah as a side now yeah oh shit yeah damn uh yeah yeah we're good friends like you're like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you guys will pick up a loose wild animal not for real and nurse it back to health we've been doing that shit i mean this armadillo i think i think this armadillo may might have been eaten by like crackheads to be honest like this was a dead spot it was a rogue kill i screwed it off But number two animal is actually a dead animal, unfortunately. It's a fantasy animal from one of my favorite Swedish restaurants. It's a roasted baby piglet with a chicken dressed as a knight riding on it. What restaurant is this, my friend? Huh? Is this a real restaurant or a fictional restaurant? Yeah, yeah. No, this is a real restaurant, man. What's it called? Yeah. Like the sixth barrel. Okay. Is this in Stockholm? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. And they have a fantasy animal on the menu that is like a roasted baby piglet with a fucking chicken rest of the night riding on top. Okay. Okay. This is a dish you can order at the restaurant and eat. Yeah, man. Yeah. Okay. Just trying to understand. How many of those have you eaten in your lifetime? At least a dozen. I was vegan until I was 18, you know.

Yeah, I was too, actually. Oh, really? Until about 19. Yeah, Chris and I were both kind of like straight-edge, hardcore bros. I made it to 20. Oh, that's amazing. I made it to 20. But then you should know kind of where I'm from, you know? Like, I'm from Clefton, which is, like, really close to Umeå, where, like, DS-13 and Refuse and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Refuse broke up in the parking lot of the venue that I went to growing up in Atlanta is always the tale that I've heard. Oh, for real? It's always the tale I've heard. Shit. yeah and then they did a whack-ass project where was it international noise conspiracy yeah that was that was like everybody i think pretended to like that because they liked refuse so much but it's like bro this ain't the same this ain't hitting the same no i i remember hearing like danish luxian like uh he pulled up because like umu like my friends out there have been like you know still like squatting places and you know doing like sick punk shit you know and when umio got like uh like was nominated like cultural capital of sweden like uh one year and it was like one of the things they used in emotions was like my friends fucking like punk squat whatever and when they got this price they like evicted the squat and when i gave them some shitty place like outside of the city you know but then dennis lexian from refuse i heard he did like like some real, like, fucking, like, storm-combed fucking P. Diddy shit there, like, pulled up, and he was like, it sounds like shit, and, like, whipped out, like, a band and gave it to them, like, get a new mixer or some shit like that. I love that that's Sweden's version of Puffy pulling up to the studio, is Dennis from Refused. Coming in in his fucking, like, sheep Monday, like, super tight pants and, like, hey, guys, like, don't spend it all on booze. I want you to walk [redacted address] and buy me some pickled herring and bring it back to the studio. Damn. Yeah, actually, speaking of Diddy, what do you think about the whole Diddy situation over there? Dude, I haven't really... Has it hit Sweden? Not really, not fully. Like, I kind of always, in some way, like, never really... I've been a hip-hop head since I was a kid, you know? Like, that's why I started getting, like, turntables when I was nine, the first ones, and started scratching. I was, like, too heavy for b-boying, you know? So I was, like, scratching, yeah, fucking...

buying jay miller records online and like wasting all my money on like fucking like buying like dancehall dub plates and shit like it was okay you were you were doing the the heavier set hip-hop disciplines yeah you're making bees painting graffiti stuff like that yeah exactly like the like the like the big boy shit but then like um i remember like the only track i ever liked from pdd was that like bad boy anthem you know yeah and i i always fucked with like that he admits in the in that track like don't worry if i write rhymes i write checks you know that he goes in like admitting to like having a ghostwriter and that like fuck you i'm like just out here balling you know and i kind of like that shit always made me respect him but like now now as shit is unfolding i'm like oh shit okay he's just Fucking crazy, man. Yeah, you respect the honesty about him, you know, maybe using a ghostwriter or sampling old hit songs and trying to take credit for it. Yeah, I have an ex that used to kick it a lot when he did it back in the days. Like, I've seen a million photos of them, and like, Aliya and shit, like, damn, yeah. Yeah, and I've always been like, damn, that's Pop Daddy, and now I'm like, oh, yeah, and I was like, Epstein shit. He's Epstein-ing. You guys have Epstein over there, right? You know about that shit? Yeah, we know about Epstein. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're up on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good, we're good. Okay, so, sorry, Animal No. 3. Animal No. 3. Ooh. I mean, right now, Pomeranians. I'm so into Pomeranians, you know? And I've been thinking, like, you know, like, to get a, yeah, a service dog, you know, like, because, like, that's the thing, like, I don't really... party these days you know i i like i go go out and shit if it's like a french show or whatever like but if i go out like i'm a full diva i'm like no q no fucking q no no like nothing like me and you both sweetheart i ain't waiting i'm with it i'm with it for real you work too hard for this bullshit yeah tony montana i work hard for this you know like that's the thing but that's the thing you know like so so so like yeah i don't really go out so

And when I'm out playing clubs and shit, like, you know, I can bring my Pomeranian, put it in my hotel room for an hour, like, buy a little phone, like, put a little DMX for it, you know, like, what dog's like. And then, like, fucking, like, go to the show, like, do my shit, like, you know, like, show my bus down for the crowd and go home, you know, like, back to the mental health dog in the hotel room. And, you know, like, and that's kind of the thing, like, now I want to look up, like, how easy it is to get a fucking mental health. service pomeranian mental health doggy it's not it's not hard at least in america we'll give them to anybody they'll give them to anybody yeah and i mean i have the record for it so like it should be good you know what i'm saying i think you just have to i think i think it's just like a fee right jason jason do you know is it is it just like three or three or something when you used to be able to get like a medical marijuana card you just say like here's 45 i have insomnia and they're like okay here you go it's that easy it's just for the money Well, I'm Swedish and we have rules, you know? Yeah, yeah. Must be nice. I actually kind of miss rules sometimes here in America. What color and size Pomeranian? Are we going super small? Butter Tim color? Yes. And like tiny, tiny, tiny. And I want to name it something crazy. Like, I don't know, like fucking Snapdog and shit. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so you're really feeling Pomeranians right now, small, tan, a beautiful khaki color or something like that. Okay, what about uniform? Yeah, like color matching my teams, you know, like Pomeranian matching my teams. That's nice. That's a nice touch. Yeah, I think so. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do all our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools.

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How long? Taskers book up faster, especially for same-day tasks. So book trusted home help today. That is $15 off your first task using promo code howlong with the TaskRabbit app or at TaskRabbit.com. Number four, I would say like hippos. Like I think hippos. hippotautomers like that's that those are crazy like people make fun of them and laugh and shit like we laughing now you know like people at home be laughing about like oh fucking hippo type shit but like they will fucking eat your family like they take you out they take your boat out they take they eat your yachts like you ain't safe They eat your yacht. The hippo looks like a bite out of the yacht. No, no. They'll eat your bust down. They swallow that whole shit. They floss their teeth with your bust down. With your whole Jacob chain, they floss their teeth. Yeah, man. They go full Johnny Dang, man. They don't care. The hippos are crazy. I kind of fuck with that. Yeah, I guess I like how dangerous, how deadly they are. And how much people really kind of make fun of them and hate on them because that just makes, when it's time for them to kill your whole family, it makes the justice, the revenge even sweeter, you know? Yeah, no, for real. Okay, this is starting to turn into a Joe Rogan podcast where we just talk about how badass animals are and how they could kill us, which is how we get ratings, so thank you. I never listened to a Joe Rogan podcast ever. Good for you. Good for you. You're better than that. I wish I was like you. Yeah, I have a t-shirt. I have a Joe Rogan podcast t-shirt. Really? Yeah, my friend made one that is fucked up. Is it cool? It's super cool. It's my friend James Wallace. He makes his brand called Haunted Starbucks. It's hilarious. He makes cool shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've seen that. I've seen that. Yeah, he makes cool shit. Yeah, we've been collaborating a lot. He's dope. He makes wild shit. Yeah, no, for real. And the Joe Rogan podcast, he heard his fire. But yeah, I never heard that shit. Honestly, that's something that is very Swedish slow. I saw all that fucked up shit about Joe Rogan, and I couldn't connect the dots that he was that guy that I thought was super.

dope when i was a kid doing x factor you know you couldn't put it together that took me years no that took me years it was literally like 2022 type shit but as an animal lover did you like seeing people you know like eat scorpions and shit i mean i ate scorpions and shit yeah no but yeah no like when i was a kid i would send in like you know like i i was i remember like my first public appearance ever was uh in a kid's show when i sent in like this letter to this swedish tv show called bumps which is like some big brown bear or whatever it's like some bear fucking warehouse and he showed videos of like seals getting eaten by like polar bears and i was like no fuck that And he sent me in a letter, like, don't eat my friends type shit, you know? Like, because when I was a kid, you know, I had, like, that shit on. Like, I put the shit, I had the crosses on my hands when I was a kid. Like, my siblings was really into that shit. So I was fully, like, I thought I was straight when I was, like, six, seven type shit. Okay, okay. Are your parents vegan? Are your parents vegetarian? Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. So you guys are a full animal liberation? Yes. My sister have a big tattoo that just says animal liberation. You know, like, shout out my family. Honestly, like, the nicest, most respectful people. Like, yeah, like, they fucking, they gods, you know, they amazing. They're a voice for the voiceless. No, for real. They have a lot of love. They taught me a lot. It's nice to see some compassion out there these days. Facts, bro. No, for real. It's a cold world. Cold world. That's why we need little Pomeranians. Okay, number one dog or number one animal. Number one animal, man. Golden Armadillo, man. I told you. Okay, sorry. Bust down Armadillo. Yeah, we've gone through all five. I think that's five. That is all five. But that also leads me to... Another question that we ask some of our guests, depending on the lifestyle that they live, are you able to list the top five prescription drugs of all time? Top five prescription drugs? That's right. Shout out to Cialis and Viagra for helping men reach their goals, I guess.

Like, rectal dysfunction must be, like, a bitch, you know, like. So just to be clear, this is not an issue that you suffer from, but just. No, no, I'm just, I'm just, no, I'm just hoping, like, you know. You're good, you're good. No, I'm good. Okay, you're just showing love to them for helping out people. I eat my meats and I get my vitamins. Like, I'm fucking good. Like, I take care of that shit. Like, I keep fresh. But, like, yeah, no, I'm listening, like, you know, top five shit that I know, like, been helping, I guess, you know what I'm saying? Oh, okay, all right, I like this approach. There's no wrong answers here, there's no wrong answers here. Yeah, like, I mean, that's the thing, like, I mean, otherwise it would be like, oh, number one, Oxy, which is, like, not cap, but, like, I'm not going to put that on this list, because, you know, like, if you want to look at it, Oxy kind of fucked America up, so, like, no, no Oxy on this list, I'm going to leave number one. Viagra. Shout out Viagra. Making the soft boy hard again. Number two, ibuprofen. Shout out ibuprofen. I have a constant migraine and it helps. Hell yeah, ibuprofen. We all use that. Number three, Osempe. Give it up to Osempe. We all want to be skinny bitches one day. Number four, crack cocaine. I don't know. I mean, it's not really prescription, but whatever. Shout out. shout out crack cocaine it's been like you know like it's been helping poor people get more money like getting to the bag like i like that robin hood shit the robin hood drug fucking shout out crack and number five man this is crazy but like there's this thing like i have two next to my bed here like this fucking swedish nasal spray shit like otrivin is called silo metasoline hydrochlorium type shit okay It's like a fucking nose spray that I think it's like three out of five type shit in Sweden that is addicted to this. Okay. It's a prescription-free, like, anti-congesting fucking nose spray. And...

I have, like, every person's skin is an addiction. Like, it's a serious problem. Like, we have, like, we have no space out there to, like, take away the addiction of this. What does it make you feel like? Like, what does it do? Besides declaw? Yeah, why do people use it recreationally? Like, while you're, like, fucking, while you have a cold or some shit, you use it and it, like, or, like, a coke flu or some shit. Like, you use it and you're... You're like, you get like, like your fucking sinuses. Yeah, yeah. But is there another, do you feel high too or something? Is there another benefit? So for like two minutes, your sinuses feel good and then you just keep hitting it like the jewel all day. Look at this shit. It's crazy. This guy's having Wi-Fi issues like a chump. No, that's for real. Like having Wi-Fi issues in 2024, that's some chump. Come on, bro. Come on. Unless you're in a hotel. If you're at home, come on. Yeah, exactly. If you're at home. yeah no hotel you can't be they can't be trusted you know hotels can't be trusted but also we usually part of the reason we do video off sometimes is because the wi-fi is so like yeah i've been in hotels where the wi-fi like you can't if you turn on it just the computer shuts down yeah yeah no it's the wackest shit ever i mean but you know at the same time like climbing opening in denmark is fucking crazy you know Stockholm has the highest gun crane ratio in all of Europe. Oh, I didn't know that. What is this? Are guns the issue in? Yeah. Number one is Sweden. Number two is Armenia. Can you understand how fucked up that is? Like Stockholm and then Armenia. That's the one and two on the like. That's honestly shocking. Like I am very surprised to hear that. But it's barely anybody knows about this because we hide it internationally, you know, but like. yesterday it was four shootings and six explosions just in stockholm you know jesus really a guy has walked into a cafe and i fucking shot a guy in the face like in front of children and shit yeah man like i didn't know it was i didn't know it was that crazy dude dude it's insane like i just saw this like trap channel i follow that like talks about like american trap lore you know yeah he has made one about like swedish like crazy gun violence you know and he's talking about like

How we, like, kidnap our rappers, you know, and, like, put them in, like, dog leashes and women's underwear and piss on them and shit. And, like, that's what happens in Sweden right now, bro. It's crazy. Is it gang? Is it, like, gangs? Yeah, yeah, it's gangs, man. It's gangs. Is it drugs? Like, or is it, like, what are they, what's the business that they're in besides? Drugs and contract killing, bro. Contract killing? Yeah. Bro, we have assassins that are, like, 12 years old. Like, that's the most normie shit. Like, that's... It's crazy. Because in Sweden, if you're under 16, you only get two years in, like, an open youth penitentiary with the rehabilitation and, like, Xbox and free government food and, like, your own room and you get to hang out with other criminals that are your age and you can use a little trap all day instead of going to school. And that's what you get for murder, man. So, like, everybody under 16 is, like, a contract killer in Sweden. It's crazy. Damn, I had no idea. Buying a murder in Sweden is literally, like, less than 10K. So, if I need to get somebody killed in Sweden, it's affordable. It's less than 10 bands. Less than 10 bands, and with the exchange rate, I'm looking good. Dude, it's crazy. Sweden is so cheap. Let's two R legacy coats, and we're done. Literally, I got... I got two, our legacy outfits, so I can get this guy that's annoying kill. No, for real, for real. I didn't know that. But, I mean, there's similar laws in America where if you're under 18, you know what I mean? It's like the penalties are much less severe. But if it's murder, it's murder. Yeah, but you don't get that. No, no, no. If it's murder, you don't get two years in like a fucking. in like in like a fucking like youth house you know for like fucking like shooting someone in the head and we don't have 12 year old contract killers here as far as i know i mean no man it's crazy sweden has really lost it i didn't i mean i didn't know okay well now i mean i'll still keep going there because i like it but i didn't know it feels so safe and clean that's why i like it yeah but like you know it is safe and clean but like but that's the thing like the gun violence doesn't really affect

regular people, civilians. You and me type shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's for the people. Like, yeah, I mean, I have a lot of friends lost in that shit, but like... It ain't so bad if you're a tourist. Maybe if you walk around with a Rolex or AP, but then you're fucked anywhere. You know I keep my shit tucked. You know I keep my shit tucked. I don't. I never do. You keep all your ice on? Everything's out? All the chains? Yeah, man. So you're just good in the city. Are you buying hella jewelry? Are you dripping? Actually, it's a fun subject. Recently, I've been getting into this shit. I just bought, like, a bust-down AP. I got, like, one of those, like, red camouflage fucking offshore APs, like, two-tone rose and fucking... Okay. Yeah. Where did you buy this? In Sweden? No, New York. This is New York, like, jewelry district shit. Okay. Yeah, in Sweden, like, there's actually not so many good places to get jewelry in Sweden. But, yeah. If you don't want, like, just good places for, like, watches, if you, like, you can care for that shit. But, like, I mean, I kind of don't really care about watches or shit like that. Like, I care about being drippy. And, like, honestly, I think it's such a goofy drip with the bust-downs, you know. Like, I had to get that shit. So, yeah, I got that. And I'm waiting for, like, some bust-down chains to come in. And, like, I got a bust-down Seeds to Exist pendant coming in, like, custom shit. So, yeah, I'm coming there. Okay, where is all this bust-down money coming from, my friend? Yeah, what's going on? This shit ain't cheap. Bro, like, are you the IRS or what, man? He said chill out. No further questions. Damn, the federales. No, but, you know, like, I make art, you know, like, I fucking, I make paintings. I make paintings, I sell them in galleries. Beautiful. I make music, you know, like.

I already had a few watches that I flipped to get this. I want to get more into the bust and shit. Honestly, the thing with bust downs and watches and shit, I think it's more like a personal investment, right? like i said like i always been down with like rap music since i was a kid and like you always saw these like people with jewelry and shit like juvenile or fucking like whoever you know like and i i thought it looked dope and like now i'm at the point where i could actually like do it so like fucking i do fucking football you know i agree and like i had i had i had some like plain jane watches and shit like fuck that shit like fuck a plain jane and fuck like market worth in like coming generations like I want to invest in me. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing plain about you, Vati. No, literally. Okay, so you're giving back to yourself. You're investing in your future. Yes, and I like to have fun. I'm very lucky to have a mother and a father that are absolutely fantastic. I've been crazy and getting in fucking hella trouble and stuff since I was basically 10 years old. if not earlier and you know like they always been supporting my shit and like being like there for me and like i don't come from like any like economical like lots of money or background and now i can just like keep on being myself and like i still have that support for my family you know and i could finally buy them like you know their favorite like their the trip they always wanted to go to i got them that for christmas you know and i can get myself a bus down and i'm still on my knees you know and for me being like uh like a fucking like bullied fat kid from like a fucking tiny ass village you know like refused it's our biggest claim to fame from like the north and it's the fucking two and a half hours south of where i'm from and like honestly i could not care less like shout out d is 13 though like but like you know like it's just fun to me so like for me this is just like

a fun thing. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I appreciate that. I think a lot of people take that kind of stuff much too seriously. People do. People really do. That's the thing. My biggest motivation, which is also my biggest trauma, is I lost a lot of my friends to whatever, like suicide or fucking overdoses or whatever. it is cold in the north and it is fucking boring and it's like mental health issues and like drug problems it's exactly like rural America type trailer park type shit you know what I'm saying like I've seen a lot of my friends die and whatever and you know like whatever they fucking saved up on a shit like that ain't worth shit tomorrow because they ain't here to enjoy it anyway you know and and i'm like i'm kind of like past that point where i would lose myself you know you know what i mean like i'm out of the crazy shit like i'm now i'm focusing fully on like Doing what I do, and I can get a bus down, and fuck it, man, I'm gonna do it, you know? I love it, I love it. You know, you never know about it. You treat yourself. Yeah, like, yeah. You treat yourself. It's also, yeah, yeah, and, like, giving the 12-year-old me, like, what I want, like, fucking making me feel like an alien music video type shit, understand? How do your, uh, how does your family feel about the tats? Because you went kind of crazy. Oh, no, they, they, oh, shit, that's fine, man, that's fine. They're more tatted up than you are. Yeah, my mother always said, like, keep your hands and, like, you know, neck and up for you, you know? Like, you always want to be able to, like, put a shirt on. And, like, my old crime thief friends always said the same. Like, don't get a face tap, man. Like, the cop's always going to fuck with you. Yeah. But, like, that's also kind of the thing, you know? Like, no more, like, crime shit. Looking forward to like a new life where I can just like be myself No, I'm saying like I don't really care to get raided by because like I don't I haven't done shit, you know, like I'm good now like I'm I'm just doing my thing I'm like, you know, I'm just myself and I'm I'm not holding back You know, I'm saying like I'm not holding back of who I am So yeah, if I want to have tattoos in my face like it's fine To be honest when I did my biggest ones like on my cheeks my mother saw it and she was like

You look like yourself, you know? Wow. And that's the thing. I feel like myself. Like, for everything I do, I feel more like myself every day I do. You know, you get to know yourself better every day. And, yeah, so, no, they're good. I feel like you really had a really amazing childhood, and your family and parental life is really great. It's nice to see that, and it seems like you're really grateful for that. yeah no yeah yeah my album is dropping on my mother's birthday you know like yeah i yeah like she like it hasn't been easy and it hasn't been like you know it's been a tough life in many ways you've been a bad boy for a lot of your life yeah yeah yeah and you know like i have adhd and like i've been going on crazy side missions my whole life fucked up school like get kicked out of school like police raiding the house you know like racking up like hundreds and thousands in fines like fucking like you know like where police officers asking like where's my fucking my duty weapon type shit like you know like it's been it's been crazy but you know my parents always believed in me and always been nice and been there and you know like they've been coming to my shows they've been coming down to berlin like catching me playing bergheim and shit you know like they down they down your parents came to see you in bergheim yes man how did how did they get in i let them in you know like fucking they're my parents bro but you know like it was crazy that is so amazing yeah and just having them like you know react to like seeing like a bunch of people with their shirts off like high as fuck on ketamine and you know like like showing them the world i live in and like you know because it's also very different from where i'm from you know what i'm saying like yeah every every day still i'm like what the is this life you know because it's like this is not at all what i come from you know it's like being like come from like fucking like basement shows and shit to nowadays like getting escorted by security to like some private meeting room in like some rooftop lounge bar like

Just fuck, man. Yakuza shit, bro. Tokyo Vice shit. Yeah, man. Literally, like, you know, like, I learned English from, like, NWA records and, like, Grand Theft Auto. And, like, now it's kind of like some Grand Theft Auto shit. Like, you know, like, I've been in LA a million times type shit. It's like, I don't know. It's weird. And, like, of course I'm thankful. Like, you know, I'm thankful I still keep contact with my childhood friends. with my parents a lot i talk to them almost every day you know like never forget where you come from you know do you do you have any childhood friends who are like bro what the fuck happened to you yeah like they're like not with it or are they all with it no man like now they're with it like that's the thing like i don't have any childhood friends like most of most of them are dead you know like most of them are dead like killed or you know overdose or whatever you know like countless people like we're talking handfuls you know and the few I have left they always been fucking with me because they also like you know fucking trash people like I am you know what I'm saying like they're from the slums too you guys have an understanding they also jumped off the porch at a young age you know they also been with it so like yeah of course like maybe it's a it's a different hustle like you can look at someone with like like biker affiliates and we look at him and be like yo what the fuck are you on the type shit like that but you know like irrespective because they see i do my thing and i get the bread for it you know i'm saying like i i'm respectfully what i do even if you don't fucking get it yeah so i actually like shout out to all of those people too because you know like Yeah, they've been with it. They've been with me all this time. But then, like, the other people, they haven't fucked with me since I was a kid. I've always been like this, you know? So, like, yeah, I just surround myself with people that try to understand, I guess. You didn't switch it up. You've been like this the whole time. Word, yeah. We were talking on our last episode with a musician who kind of is known for making kind of sad-ish music.

And we were talking about how back in the day, maybe like you were talking about the Nelly, the Diddy, juvenile times when, you know, club music and turning up was like happy and celebratory and bottle popping. And nowadays, you know, club music is a little bit more sad, depressing, minor. The drugs are different. The beats are different. The energy is different. The lyrics are different. Yeah. Where do you see that going? I mean, obviously, you know, sad boys is it's in the name, but. Like, do you think we're going to have a happy music renaissance? Do you think it's ever going to happen? I've been trying to make, like, some happy music lately. Like, I have a few, like, happy songs coming out, but, like, that's the thing. Like, I think the world would maybe need some more happy music because, honestly, like, it's fucking sad, you know? Like, waking up in today's world is not a blessing, you know? In some ways it is if you have people you love and shit, but, like, for most parts it's depressing, right? A lot of people, it's very hard right now. Yeah, that's like, I think that's also why I'm switching around and trying to make more fun shit. I'm a fun guy too, you know what I'm saying? And I kind of made it out of a bleak place. It's easy for me to make bleak music and shit, but making the fun stuff is hard. But when you do, you feel kind of like you're actually giving something away. You know what I'm saying? The sad music is kind of like, I feel you, bro. Well, like this. happy music is like trying to keep a good spirit and you know like it's fucking important to keep a good spirit up even in these terrible fucking times you know we need we need a renaissance from swedish house mafia maybe dude i love swedish house mafia you know like i met me too i met steve angelo a few years back in the airport lounge in stockholm and like me and him were the only ones getting drunk at like six in the morning so he was like yeah you must be a dj i was like yeah work and he was like where are you going and i was like la he was like oh me i'm going to miami i was like yeah dope and it was like this little like world star dj moment and you know like i was going to play like some fucking like some basement punk shit when he was going to like you know i'm gonna go play a stadium with a football stadium yeah but i met him like

a year later at the graffiti shop, and he walked up to me, and I was like, bro, fuck, man, how's the DNA career going? I was like, I'm up still, you up still? Like, you know. Honestly, shout out Steve Angelo, shout out Swedish House Mafia, and you know, like, I live, and I have my studio in the same area, actually, where they all come from, which is like the Blue Hill in Stockholm, like Hoge Lund. Yeah, actually, when I was watching your Boiler Room, I saw you play like a Jungle remix of... of one yeah yeah no but that's the thing like i love eric i might need i yo can you bless me with the mp3 though yeah i can i can it's a dub plate but i can send you some dub plates my man thank you i'll help you out yeah i'll send you some shit no i got you i got you i'll drop a folder but like yeah no i i think like that whole thing is starting to like it should come back and i've been making some happy music let's see i feel like my painting is also becoming happier you know my designs are becoming happier like it kind of shifts like when the world is happy like we have space to like show the dread and pain that we all go through you know but like when the world is like this you know like fucking waiting for a new world war to begin type shit like it's very much like the bad guys are on top right now and it's not good you know like We need some happy shit. Now more than ever. Yeah, for real, man. Like, bring back some fucking, like, even, like, the Beyoncé, like, yes, girl girl songs is kind of, like, depressing to me. Like, bring back good shit. Like, gangsta Queen Latifah. Like, bring back Queen Latifah. Period. That's on period. Do you listen to podcasts yourself, Vadi? Yeah, I listen to, like, Swedish, like, prime and gang podcasts. It's nice to get neighborhood updates. Citizen app type shit? It's local news, but in a podcast format. Yeah, literally. Maybe somebody fell down a well or something like that? Yeah, type shit.

type shit fell down a well type shit on god do you paint in the same studio that you make music in or do you have two separate spaces uh i have a few separate spaces i have like i have a tower together with this witch um which is like a fucking like an ancient like full lord of the rings type situation that like for real like it looks crazy i'm sorry did you just say you shared this with a witch Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a great witch. She's like 65 or something. She's a great witch. If you're looking for a witch, she's a great one. She is a great one. Okay. We don't know much about witchery. Is it big in Sweden? Yeah, I mean, we come from that shit, you know? Like, we come from, like, witchcraft, you know? Like, I definitely come from that shit. Like, yeah. Standing on witchcraft. Standing on witchcraft. Been standing on witchcraft, you know? Yeah, the demon. It is very, it is very. It is very Swedish. Okay, so you share a space with a great witch, is what you said? Yeah, I have the top floor. And then we have a ritual room, which is the middle floor, and then a common space in the bottom. And there's a painter that has a great studio there. And I have a music studio there, and I paint a bit there and shit. yeah and then i have uh the cease to exist uh we have like a headquarters too you know we have like a little headquarters for like our office and our studio and then i paint at home honestly like mostly i paint at home i fucking love that shit except that i fucked my floor up and like i'm gonna have to like fix that shit but i love painting at home you know because like i don't get to be at home and for a lot of years i don't really had a home so I have one now, and I fucking love being here, you know? It's beautiful, my friend. Do you have a car? No, I don't have a car, man. I'm not allowed to drive. Well, since you told us you were getting into jewelry, I thought cars might be, you know, next or running parallel. I love cars, man. My brother has a crazy-ass Mustang Mach 3 that is so beautiful and, like, sounds so crazy. And, man, I love being a good car.

But yeah, I haven't really been allowed to get a license, but like that shit is changing. So like, yeah, I'm going to get one and I'm definitely going to get a sick ass car too. Okay. Yeah. I feel like, you know, your, your artistic brain and mind and you know, the clothes you wear and the jewelry that you have, I would just love to see that channeled into whips. because i feel like you would have like i feel like you already have like 10 g wagons built out in your brain already man yes i love me a g wagon i was actually whipping me a g wagon last time i was in l a because i was like yeah i don't know like i can't die in this i was thinking you know like that's the thing that i don't really know how to drive yeah so okay so it's best that you get driven yeah yeah i fucked with a driver yeah Yeah, we all do. My girlfriend got a license, and she bought a fox, and she can drive me around. That's a good look, you know? That's a very good look. Yeah, that's a great look. That's a great look. Yeah. Do you prefer New York or L.A. if you're coming to America? Oh, New York or L.A.? Like, okay. It's fucking tough, because honestly, I spend more time in L.A., but New York is more fun, man. Like, I have more fun in New York, because it's walkable. You know, I love walking. And, like, it's like the Mecca of graffiti, you know? Like, walking around, like, getting up in New York. Like, it's fun, you know? Like, dipping between restaurants and fucking getting up and, like, working and shit. Like, it has, like, a good pace for, like, an ADHD guy like me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, like... You gotta go scribe the toilet at Lucienne. Feels amazing. For real. Literally that, man. I've been doing that. Yeah. It's fucking good, you know? Like, that shit I fuck with with New York. With LA, it's like, I feel like a lot of shit get boring and it's like a lot of shit that it's just like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. It's just like some fucking... It's like LA is just like a big house party to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like a Red Cup house party. It's like, oh, be careful. Don't spill that. This is Drake's house. Man.

That's a good point. It's a very good point. It's rare that you go to someone's house in New York that's like that. In, like, every house I've been in, they're like, this is Drake's house. You know what I'm saying? Like, everything. Yeah. Like, Drake can't live in every house in LA. No, but with that said, like, me and some friends did rent the A-frame for, like, a few months and did have, like, a fucking blast in LA. And I have a lot of good friends out there. Like, shout out to all my homies in LA. And, like, you know, LA. do be fun. Like, I have fun friends out there and, like, very creative and dope people. So, like, you know, LA is dope. And, like, you know, also the home of fucking Drake with the Ruler. Like, long live the truth. Yeah, actually, speaking of rappers, I wanted to ask about how it is working with RX Poppy. Impossible, man. Fucking impossible, man. Ah, fucking fool. You don't say. Pre-Arc's puppy, man. Fucking, yeah. Pre-Arc's puppy. Shout out puppy. But yeah, no, he's getting close to me, man. Matthew, though. Like, shout out Matthew. He's his fuck to work with. He fucking, like, I mean, he dedicated us to, like, a new style poet. You know what I'm saying? I really fuck with his vision and energy in the music. He's fast and he's honest and he's quick with it and witty. Those are all my favorite things in a rapper as well. I love witty. Who's your favorite rapper? My favorite rapper of all time. I take you for a Lil Wayne guy, Jason. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, it might be Wayne. It might be Wayne. I mean, Wayne is a very, like, unproblematic answer. I feel like if you answer Wayne, it feels like everybody's going to be happy also because Wayne is, like, the GOAT, right? But, like, I would say Birdman before Wayne. I mean, Birdman's cooler. But he has less of a catalog, I would say. Do you fuck with Birdman because it's big boy style? Doesn't Wayne write his raps anyway? I fuck with Birdman just because he's Birdman, man. Put some respect when you mention his name, man. Honestly, on God, Birdman is the dopest. He's the godfather. I agree. He's a badder, tougher, you know what I'm saying? I agree with that. That's the thing. He's still out here. That's the difference. He fly in any weather.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, he didn't lie in any weather. You're right. Lil Wayne is an unproblematic reply, and I respect that. Do you like Master P? Master P, nah. I've never really been into Master P. Nothing No Limit, really? Nah, I'm more like fucking Max P, fucking Papoose. Not Papoose. Yeah, I'm not Papoose. Bro, that's how I know you're foreign. Saying you like Papoose? Man, Papoose has a mad ass hits, man. The coolest people I know like Papoose. It's true. He has got a dumb ass hat on, but except for that... Y'all can have that. Y'all can have Papoose. I'm not cool then. Y'all can have that. Hold that one. I can't believe I got Papoose on this list. But yeah, no. But that whole wave with Max B and all New York. You know, like fucking... cocky outfits with durags and like you know big dims like when dipset was really thriving too yeah exactly like it had some extra raw energy to it you know it was like west coast shit always been like more clean cut and smooth and like with that said like draco the ruler is still like top one like my favorite rapper i would say of all time yeah wow yeah yeah it's a good one yeah um all right well Vade, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. The new album comes out on your mom's birthday. What date is that? It's the 4th of April. Soon. Okay, so about one month away. Soon come. Yeah. They sent over the album and I listened to it all. It's really good. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yeah, if you're in Stockholm, like the weekend after, fucking 12th of April, we're opening up, like me and my friend are opening up an art gallery in Stockholm. Oh, nice. What's it called? man we have no idea bro like honestly this is so this shit is so impulsive like you know it's my best friend anthony like he's the one i got to know him when i was 14 or 15 through graffiti shit we've been working ever since like he's the one i run all my record labels with like knowing electronics cease to exist and uh we just got offered like this this little spot that was beautiful like an area we've both been like having other businesses in you know and um

D is like, do you want it? He's like, fuck it, let's do it. So we're opening up like a showroom. Everyone listening, just DM Vare what you think the gallery should be called and whoever gets it. For real though. Whoever wins, you get a free glance at my bustle. You get a glance at his bustle. You get a piece. No, but thank you for joining us. It was a pleasure. We'll look you up next time we're in. Stockholm for sure dude I'll take you to some nice restaurants like I'll show you I mean you know Stockholm is like still the most beautiful like Gotham City like it's great I'll show you a good time out there I trust you I trust you thanks again we appreciate it yeah thanks for having me guys alright bro we'll talk to you soon bless you take care