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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts. or watch on YouTube. Hello, Gunners here. Them jeans, Chris Black. We're both in Glendale in my... Studio. We're in the studio. No, finally, we're back in action. I ventured all the way to Glendale on a beautiful, sunny Sunday. I'm once again in the shadow of Jason's beautiful sauna. I'm looking at him. The eye bags are darker than usual. Jason's been on the DL. He is on the injured list. He's touch and go. I've been sucking dick on the low since Wednesday. It's not good for him. His nosebleed situation is going to escalate. We are obviously keeping a close eye on it here at How Long Gone Headquarters, as I am also not only the CEO, the CFO, but I'm also kind of the in-house doctor because I'm the only person here. You got to wear many hats, don't you? Honestly, it's exhausting, but for you... You're not tall enough to reach the stethoscope all the way up to this big old tree trunk, are you? Can you bring me the supreme stepladder? I got to get the heartbeat. Yeah, I feel totally fine. I don't have any hangover symptoms. I don't have any pain. It's just I only have a little bit of blood left in my body, and you know what I mean? Okay, so...

Okay, so we're losing blood in an alarming clip. It's not alarming. I mean, if it was really alarming, I would be like... Sure. But this feels like something. I know you were in New York City, which is not your home turf, which can be discombobulating for someone of your stature. But I guess what I'm saying is... The weather was all over the place. I just feel like maybe you should have kind of checked in with a medical professional. Because this is affecting you in a lot of ways. I plan to. I plan to. But why didn't you just hit the urgent care? I don't know. I guess I was lying to myself when I was in New York that I was going to be fine. Sure. And then I went on. And I was kind of. I don't know. I went on the plane yesterday. I flew home. There was no problems at all. But I woke up feeling a little out of it this morning as well. So I think I'm going to go hit the dock tomorrow. Well, what did you have for dinner last night? Sweet cream. You don't believe me? No, I believe you. Yeah, I ordered Sweetgreen while Vic was driving us home from the airport. I ordered Sweetgreen on the app. It's so convenient on the app, isn't it? I just use my credit. Yeah, I don't want to bring up a sore subject, but my lack of credit is alarming. Yeah. And if someone from Sweetgreen corporate is listening to this podcast... You got to pay to play, Chris. We'll do a couple Instagram stories. It just lives for 24 hours. Don't think. Post a pickup there. But it's just a little weird that you have credit and I don't. What, because you like to eat or whatever? Look, it's reciprocating. Give and take. Give and take. You don't do anything. I post on my stories. You post a picture of a salad on your stories? Every now and again. I guess I got to watch closer. I haven't noticed that. It's not daily. It's quarterly. Okay, it's when you... But also, the thing that you can't put a price tag on, it's when I'm out socializing at these events and people are like, what's up with Sweetgreen? Is it good? And I'm like, low-key, it's really good. Like, that kind of stuff. So you don't think I'm doing the hand-to-hand combat, the real work, in the streets?

I think you are because I've seen it with my own two eyes, but the world's vision of you is suspect on that. They're saying that I don't even think you're going to post the blue bottle tote bag that we got in the mail. I will not be posting that. Whereas I will. What do you think? Okay, so we got sent some blue bottle instant coffee, which is... We've got a great gift package in general. It's really cool because I love when Nestle-owned corporations flip cheap coffee on its head and make it expensive. So this is like literally like not your mother's instant coffee. Like you put a scoop of water and stir it. I assume so, yeah. Like when you watch a movie in the 70s and they're like, is Senka okay? Yeah, it's like at the cop. They're back at the station house. Let me get a cup of Folgers crystals. Okay, so this is... Yeah, it's just dehydrated crystallized coffee that you mix. But it's like of a high quality, I'm assuming. Is it possible that it's good? Yeah, I think so. Okay, but there's also a gift card. Did you check how much the gift card is for? No. I didn't either. I don't think you've ever gone online to check the denomination of a gift card that you've received. No, no. Even in your broke days. You've got to give gift cards away. I know, but I like the idea of receiving a gift card without putting... You know when you get the Amazon card and your aunt writes in $50 or $25? It's a little cheap. But when you don't write in the amount, it adds a little mystery to it. It's a little high class. I have PTSD from Decatur Dang giving me $200 worth of Whole Foods gift cards in $5 increments for my 40th birthday. He's like, I know you're going to use these. That's funny as hell. It's really funny. You can hold it up to the brick to the head. Yeah, I wonder if the gift card is... I feel like it could either be... $10 or like $250? No, I think we're going to look at like a $40 or a $50 pop. Okay, a $40. And so what do we – I haven't been into a blue bottle before, but I'm guessing what? The Almond Cortada is hitting for what, $8? No. $5.5 plus $2 tip option? Almond Cortada, let's go $5.75. $5.75 plus tax, we're looking at $6.30 plus tip, we're looking at $7.50.

It depends on how non-binary the barista is. Of course. Well, I saw today that we got to check in on our baristas because the Boy Genius album came out. And it's really going to affect them. It's going to affect their latte art capabilities. If you walk into a blue bottle and they're playing the new Boy Genius, run. Unless you want tears in the macchiato, I don't think it's good. Yeah, go make it a Dunkin'. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you walk into Dunkin', you're like... I don't listen to that fucking Boy Genius fucking bullshit, dude. Yo, that Boy Genius? Not here. Not here. Not on my watch. We only listen to Young Gravy. So there's been a lot of talk on various social media websites, and there's the Boy Genius backlash. Sophomore Slump? The album is not good, and obviously I'm disappointed because the EP is amazing. I think people are just like, I'm tired of this. Like, I'm tired of whiny white chicks. It's kind of the vibe. But if the music's good, everybody's in. But I don't think this time the music is good enough. And I unfortunately think there's just a backlash on the whole thing. Is this a sexist thing that's been happening for years? Because I feel like I remember being a youngster in the 90s. like a tori amos or a sarah mclaughlin or you know female artists like that like it's the same thing like if they have a hit you're like yo this is fucking like even the fellas got to give it up for this this is a certified bop but as soon as it's trash I think it's a little bit of that, obviously, with anything that is... Yeah, with any music. Well, with anything that is women, they're going to be men. They're just like, this sucks because they're idiots. But someone like me who has a nuanced love for female artistry... I think it's safe to say you prefer music from a female voice than a male voice. I do, and I listen... I mean, there's a couple songs, of course, that are good, but it's just like...

I just feel like it's tough. I feel like the EP was just like special and kind of like this thing that happened. And this one is more like, we're putting it down in our scope. We record it for eight months. You know what I mean? It's like, it's just, it feels like, I mean, everybody, I think they're real friends. Yeah. But I also think. For listeners at home, you did air quotes. I just don't know who's a real lesbian or not. It's getting confusing. And that's a part of the backlash. I think Julian Baker is a certified. I think she's the, I think she's the only one. She's my favorite out of the lot. Sorry to say. I think she's really talented. I think it gets, I don't know. I don't think to listen to her music. It gets melodramatic. Yeah. I only listen to the solo album. Well, the lyrics are also getting destroyed for the lyrics. But again, I think it's just like anything gets too big. Obviously, it's going to sell a shitload. The tour is, I'm sure, sold out. Obviously, none of this matters. I'm disappointed as a fan because I don't like it that much. We want some evolution. But some of the tweets are very funny. And people are like, I feel like it just feels like open season a little bit. It feels like it's acceptable. It just took one person to unscrew one screw out of the hull of the ship, and now it's leaking. It just takes one Nirvana-inspired Rolling Stone photo shoot. This tweet, it's kind of sad. Now that white women singer-songwriters are all called like puny tyrant and make songs about how having a pebble in your shoe reminds you of being ghosted and all of their fans lie about how that feeling is so real it makes them want to jump off of a balcony. That's good stuff. This right here is good stuff. Imagine if you bought the new EP from an artist like on Merge and her name is Puny Tyrant. Yo, new Puny Tyrant. This is the new album from Puny Tyrant. Do you think that was a specific subtweet to Boy Genius, or do you think that's dipping into the Gracie Abrams universe of other artists? I think Gracie Abrams is not appealing to critical thinkers. I think Gracie Abrams is good and catchy and hot, and it's a little bit... There's definitely some crossover with a Boy Genius, but it's more of like a...

billy eilish than it is a boy it's gonna be a zagat not a michelin exactly it's it's indie but like obviously it's not indie her her dad is jj abrams and she's on a major label yeah yeah and the songs are good i mean i like i like grace abrams i think it's good yeah that's that is the shame of of being a nipo baby when you have it it's all there the artwork the vibe the branding the music the songs and everything but you know it has that little check asterisk next to it you can never get past it well there are haters that will never get past it i i luckily can look even if you get past it it's still in the back of your mind that little asterisk of like yeah i think i it's weird though i think like because of stan culture and like fandom being so crazy i think there are people i think there's just a group of people that just don't process any of that oh yeah it's just like i fucking love gracie she's the shit of course of course and those are the same people that your tweet sort of referred to yeah jumping off of a cliff because of the pebble in the shoe i think things have just gotten so melodramatic in so many ways and everything everybody thinks everything that happens to them is a microaggression that i think that that is kind of that is working against boy genius even though that is not their fault they have nothing to do with that unfortunately Maybe for some people, they're the face of everything happens to me and it's bad. Okay. Well, to take a page out of the real estate book, do you think that the Pussy Bubble is going to pop at some point? Sounds like a Vibes Cartel song. I think Pussy Bubble is actually the new Glorilla EP. I got a certain point. will the melodrama and the pussiness and the you know all that wounded person vibe is gonna like is the world just gonna be like enough stop it i mean maybe i mean look but i think about all the stuff that pre predates this like whatever cat power and liz fair and shit like that and it even though it was like sad it wasn't melodramatic it was different it well it felt very real yeah because because you would listen to

a cat power song and she's talking about how like i don't blame you for breaking up with me you know and you're like oh this is real shit that this person went through and then you listen to a boy genius and it's like i like to live by the cemetery because i'm kind of freaky yeah no i mean i think it's i but i also think it's i hate to blame it on my beloved internet but i do think it's like that's what that's i think people's brains are ruined and every experience is being mined for virality to some extent And it's like, I know if I quote Leonard Cohen, like, it'll be a thing, even though it's bad. Like, it'll be a thing, and I think I'm clever, you know, or whatever. But it's just, some of the lyrics are crazy. But also, like, I don't actually care about lyrics. But then when someone takes them and places them somewhere, and you can read them context-free, you're like, yeah, that's pretty fucking bad. But I think that's a lot of lyrics. Like, I think that's historically lyrics in general. from our last episode with the national i mean that's a band infamously known for having lyrics where some people are like okay bro but that should be back a little bit like that you the eucalyptus this shit is genius like i fucking love it sure sure like you fit in mountain valley spring water and afghan wigs in one song you know my asses you got me where do i sign hook line and sinker But yeah, I don't know if... Chris starts sucking, doesn't even ask questions. I feel like I've listened to so much melodramatic music in my life, but maybe it wasn't melodramatic, maybe it was just sad, and now this is revealing what actual melodramatic music is, you know what I mean? And you've gotten older. Sure. And the music that 24-year-olds make is no longer of use for you, for the most part. Yeah, but again, the Boy Genius EP, we both rinsed it. That shit is good. i did rinse it it's good like that like the last song where it's just like the ketchup i scrubbed it put it in my miele yeah ran that shit it's good it's classic air dried it but you know this this happens this is this is part of the process you know it is part of the process um i was in i was in new york we went to corner bar i had a interesting moment that that threw me for a loop i forgot to talk about the last episode but we're sitting next to a table of some

Some well-put-together women, maybe, like, around our age, late 30s, early 40s. Chic women dining. One of them was in conversation with the other people. Looked like she was wearing, like, an Hermes belt with some jeans and, like, a nice shirt tucked into it. Like, looking very classic. And then she said, in conversation with her friends at this chic dinner, the phrase, hot diggity dog. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web. So do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues. Obviously. Maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know, have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools so those future graduates can find me. And, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. Show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early. And we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional as your competition, if not more. So, head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking...

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terrible behavior or it's like so above amazing that we can't even understand it i was just stunned i was like this is because it felt like they were in the restaurant for the first time like the vibe is like oh this is great it's so cute like oh the menu looks good and then the order is we're all just going to get the same thing i mean that is a radical act of rebellion it kind of is no no it's very yeah i know it's like it's so weird that i think there must be more to it There's like something I don't understand that you said. And you can just put it wherever. We're just going to share everything. And you're like, bitch, what? No sides. Just, yeah, just put them wherever. Your chicken's a little bit better. We're sharing. Yeah, maybe, who knows? Maybe they own multiple restaurants. Maybe they own California Chicken Cafe, and they're kind of checking out chicken. I'm just poyo-pilled at the end of the day. That's all I can see. I'm fucking crazy for the poyo. Yeah, they grabbed me by the talons. That is very... Hot diggity dog is fucking crazy. But that feels like... Like the fucking Six Flags guy type shit, you know? It's like somebody's uncle in Evanston, Illinois making a joke. Somebody's uncle in South Carolina, they just shot for birdie on the eighth hole. Hot diggity dog. Hot diggity dog. I fucking got out of that trap up and down. I usually double bogey on this one. Lunch is on me, boys. When I started saying hot dogging for showing off... Sure. That was well-received years ago. I accepted that as part of my southern vernacular that I've now integrated into my adult life. That is not so far from Hot Diggity Dog, I feel like. Oh, no, no. Those are swimming in the same waters. But to me, Hot Dog, and I learned that term from 80s ski culture. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were sick on the slopes. Oh, I've never skied, obviously. Is this from a film? From various films. Like, there is a film, a series. There was multiple installments called Ski School. Okay. And it was, you know, it was like a hot, it was like a teen skiing movie. There would be like... Hot instructors, let me guess. Hijinks. Yeah, you'd see like titties every once in a while, you know, that kind of stuff. But if you're a skier, there's like the two types of people, like the person who's like the put together slalom person.

blue blood type yeah and then the hot dog or they have like the weird funky beanie or jester's cap or like a neon goggles you can just call them snowboarders but go ahead yeah yeah more or less yeah and those are the people who are doing some funky maneuvers sure hot dog and showing off yeah they're doing jumps tricks they might hit a rail yeah that's not right hot dog and is is feels so good and descriptive but i've also um in my neighborhood this weekend I've discovered yet again another kind of guy. New guy alert. New guy alert. And I'm calling it John Iver. John Iver. Instead of, well, John Iver. Okay, okay, okay, okay. John Iver. John Iver, I was like, feels like a tennis player who's ranked 48. John Iver, it's like. John Iver. It's got, he's giving Bon. How is John spelled? J-O-N. J-O-N, but there's an accent mark on the O. There's a tilde. Jean. Yeah, there's a... But it's like he's got the Bon Iver look where it's like not a lot of hair on top, a lot of hair on the face, but then there's like a kid. What's the bracelet story? In the mix. Oh, multiple. Multiple. And cheap sunglasses. The cheapest sunglasses. Which feels like something Bon Iver also might be into even though he's filthy rich. I could see him wearing like the... promo fake Ray-Bans with the I just got him at this truck stop in Boise. They were in the gift bag. I don't know. But I saw three guys in three days that I was like this is really like a look. And I just wasn't I don't think that is something that I've seen before. Or been able to pinpoint seeing this many in one. So balding up top but trying to do something with what's left. Facial hair is distracting you from the baldness. But it's got that, it's the scraggly Bon Iver facial hair. Right. It's splotchy, patchy. It's like a look, a little paunch, you know. But they... Is the sunglasses an odd bright color? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like an unsightly plastic blue. It's just like, how did you get here? Sunglasses are fucking crazy, man. I stopped wearing sunglasses. Why?

No more lip balm. No more sunglasses. After a while, you don't need them. You push through. Well, I only wear sunglasses because they look cool. It has nothing to do with... The only time I've told myself I'll wear sunglasses is like a hangover brunch or an airport thing if I'm like wicked pissed hungover. So you're saying you just don't like them for the use? Yeah, they're unnecessary for me and I always lose them. And I like the feeling of sun on my face. Okay, Huberman, relax. It is a little Hubish, but I don't know. I think my body has just sort of rejected sunglasses. This is cool. I think I'm more excited about sunglasses and I probably will stay that way for a while because I couldn't wear them without difficulty with prescription. But now that the world of sunglasses is fully open to me, I will fall victim to their charm. Sure. Yeah, why not? I mean, and they're also, it's crazy. And also, I've never bought a pair of sunglasses that I haven't lost. Every pair of sunglasses I've bought is $600 or more, and I don't lose them. How long do they last? Oh, you don't lose them. I've never lost a pair of sunglasses. I've gotten a pair stolen. I think there's a certain, like if they're above $500, you keep an eye on them. But anything, maybe three and under, they're gone. Three and under, three and under, you leave them in an Uber for sure. Yeah. Lip balm is interesting. Is this sort of one of your, like, when it's like, this guy has great skin, he washes his face with fucking bar soap. Vibes? Like, I don't need this? No, I just... The body will correct itself? Exactly. Lip balm is created by the man. I'm worried that you are getting too Huberman pilled. As do I. What? As do I. I don't... I've never listened, obviously. And I won't. Because I'm not into biohacking. Sure. But unfortunately, I feel like he's moving into Rogan territory. I don't really, for the record, I don't really listen to him either. He's moving into Rogan territory, not like politically, but he's moving into the territory where I'm starting to hear a lot of people in my life reference it like they expect me to know what they're talking about. He's become an emerging trusted source.

In the world of bro science. But the only thing that I've heard about him. He's the Peggy Goo of bro science. That I like is that he's a big rancid guy and so am I. Yeah. So that's cool. He's an East Bay punk with an X. But he's actually a scientist at Stanford. Allegedly, yeah. Okay, we've seen the paperwork on that or is that something we just believe? They had him fax it over to the office. Okay, they faxed it over. Because I just, I don't, I just don't. But what I will say also about him. The only reason is he's hot. Like women, it's like here's the one scientist who's like a buff hot guy with hats. That's it. Joe Rogan looks like a meatball, so it's not quite the same. He's 5'1", soaking wet. Okay, so I guess, but I'm also seeing with the Huberman trend, I'm seeing women embracing it as much. More. And do you think that's because of the science he's reporting on, or do you think that's a looks-based? It's a beautiful combo of all of them. He's got the deep voice. Okay. He's buff and good looking. Okay. And he has a commanding energy to him where you just believe what he's saying. Sure. The perfect amount of self-deprecation, which I hate for all of these podcasters, where it's like we're all millionaire, like super successful dudes, and everyone is just like... I'm so dumb compared to you. You're so much stronger than me. Your quads are so much bigger than mine. I hate that shit. Does he talk about... Is it like exercise stuff? One episode will be three hours about water drinking, and the next episode is female reproductivity, and then sleep science, and then squatting or whatever. I didn't know if it was just kind of like... body diet brain or if it was also like workout what what my i i'm trying to remember where i talked about this maybe it was with you but i what i think the reason is is like you heal you'll have like a clip like a youtube tiktok clip where it's like 60 seconds of like this dude being like forget everything you know about drinking water yeah here's how you actually you want to get real rem sleep and then that brings you in

Because it's like the perfect little digestible bit of content. And then you listen to the podcast and it's three hours of people saying these scientific words. And you're not absorbing any of the knowledge because you don't understand it. Because they're just like, and that transmits to the tracheal tube. So nobody knows what they're saying. They're going white paper mode on YouTube. But you just feel a sense of productivity or positivity. By just listening to it. You just feel like you're doing something. Maybe some of that stuff is being absorbed into your brain, but just hearing two smart people talk for three hours gives you a sense that you've produced something meaningful that day. You've educated yourself, even though nothing has been absorbed. I don't really listen to podcasts, but the reason I listen to Joe Budden is because it's dumb entertainment. I don't want to learn. The idea of... I'm going to learn. Well, there could be something there. I'm going to learn about the, I mean, I learn about stuff that's just not important. Sure. But I'm just like, I don't, that's not, I just don't like this thing of like every minute is optimized. I'm not wasting a single second on entertainment. I am optimized for performance. 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. That's day one. I have lunch at 11. Day two begins at three. So the reason I get up at 2.30. It's just like – By 6 p.m., I'm kicking your butt. No, I just don't get – I know that's like hustle culture shit and it's all very funny, but I really think that guys like Huberman are kind of bringing that – like they're not saying it, but that's kind of what they stand for, I feel like. Yeah, it's just – it's taking that formula and somebody seeing a hole in the market and just turning one switch, just a little – and then it just opens up is it not like incel-ish no not really i think i think it could be something it could be incel rehabilitation like if you are an incel person this is a good easy way to dip your toe into the jacuzzi of being a good person perhaps you know so it's it's that okay it's it's is he rogan related business wise uh like is he with a network like what he's all solo okay he's all solo

but i mean he they all do each other's paws and shit like that sure sure sure there's some reciprocation he'll he'll do how long gone at some point i feel it in my bones yeah i feel like we have enough in common i'd love to talk to him i mean i'm fascinated by it but the thing that i don't like about a lot of those people is they're very like they're very one note one direction i didn't mean to say one direction like that but it's they don't they they have to control the narrative of what's going on and if anything deviates away from what their vision is they crumble like he would come on how long gone and do his show he would you're saying he's different and like if we asked him a question he would be like uh no comment or like oh i probably shouldn't talk about that or something like that oh really like very very controlling of their image and not willing to show a side of them that sure is a little vulnerable or something like this is what works for me i'm not i don't need to do or or they know that they have to be a certain level of self-deprecating or i have to be a human being and open up about my personal life a little bit but they're very control it's a in a very controlled way yeah it's like robot moves to make you feel like i'm real Yeah, it's like a PR thing. I'm not going to short circuit if you ask me, but I have some canned answers. Canned answers to put out the fire kind of thing. Interesting. Which makes it kind of like AI-ish, where it's like, yeah, but what do you really think about this? And they're like, next question, please. Well, that's what I mean, though. It's like the whole purpose is just to give you information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't understand. Speaking of TikTok videos, I wanted to talk about nutting six to seven times per day. Which is we have uncovered. The world has uncovered. Wait, this is the one that wasn't AI. This was an OnlyFans promotion. This was a video. Fake podcast. It's a very, very interesting subject to me, and I think there's a lot of meat to chew on here. Relax.

Relax, bro. We ain't chewing on any meat, bro. Six to seven times a day. I'm chewing on meat six to seven times per day. My man? This sounds like Larsa Pippen. Larsa Pippen said Scotty hit four times a day for their whole marriage. Yeah, I bet he did. He's atoning for a lot of... If he doesn't do that, he's going to fucking shoot up a Publix, bro. That's true. All the rage inside of him. I'm sorry. Okay, go ahead. But the phenomenon of everyone knows what a video podcast is. Podcasts aren't an audio show anymore. They're a 16x9 video feed of two fucking idiots drinking liquid death and being like, oh, well. It's call her daddy in a beige restoration hardware set just giving bars. And a guy on the phone calls in and they're like, I fucking cheated on my chick. And they're like, oh, damn, that's crazy. Uh, so somebody is taking that and they're like, why don't we just like, we don't even need a podcast to do that. We don't even need another person. We can just have somebody sitting on a chair with the microphone in front of them wearing full beat makeup and a freak them dress. And then they just don't bring her veil is air into this, bro. She wishes it was her. No, that was, yeah, that is not her bag. Yeah. That's fucking, that's just flammable. That's FN. FN backslash HLG. Yeah, hit fashionnova.com slash HLG for 20% off your Fashion Nova men's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wouldn't do a women's deal. We have a full collab of under-titty garments. 44 pieces of under-titty garments, actually. But it doesn't matter if it's a podcast anymore, and anything can be a podcast now, and it adds... instant credibility to something yeah as long as you have the illusion that somebody asked you a question yeah and you're replying literally put the mic the the howard stern style mic in front of you and it and it instead of going to camera with a ring light

It gives instant, it situates it differently and people take it more seriously is what you're saying. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened earlier, to be honest. And now it's starting to come out that people are just making these fake videos. They were never on a podcast to begin with. And it's just a thing. And then you go to that, you're like, oh, this chick is hot or this dude is hot or this person. Clip culture has now blossomed into just like, I'm going to record 10 of these canned. kind of like written things yes and we're going to cut them up and it's going to promote my in this case only fans or my fucking protein powder or my fucking youtube channel or whatever my sex toys my protein powder my athletic greens well i read that there was this big story about uh it was really good in vox um i forget the writer's name but it she wrote about this like the influencers youtube like teaching where they make a fortune on these, like, seminars about how to, you, like, how to, it starts with, like, how to make money, like, trading, and then it gets into, like, how to be an influencer, and you subscribe, and these people are just, like, unqualified follower havers. Full snake oil shit. And they're just full, but they're making millions. And then they teach you how to teach your own seminars. It's fucking crazy. But it's the same kind of thing. Like a pyramid scheme. Where it's like, yeah, it's pyramid schemes. This is fucking Herbalife. it's fucking crazy it's herb life like i don't i didn't think we were i know we're dumb but sometimes i'm like damn we're this dumb people keep getting dumber and dumber and smarter and smarter yeah i mean no both of course but this thing went crazy because it was obviously i mean it's fucking amazing like it's amazing content it's like perfect content but yeah in the in the same way as um as the coppola kids tiktok we don't need anything to be real anymore As long as it's something that's fun to have an opinion about. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter. And that's real. Like, a woman saying, I suck my boyfriend's dick seven times a day. That's fun to have an opinion about. Like, I have so many thoughts. You know what I mean? Sit down. How did it come out that it wasn't real?

I don't know. I don't know either. Somebody did some investigating. I'm like, this is fucking crazy. It's really funny. And there was like another one that same day that was along the same lines. The other one was a guy saying his vows at a wedding. And he was reading like fucking Ari Gold's best man speech on serendipity. Just watch it on the plane. He said like, you're good at keeping my nuts empty and cooking, but you're not good. Yeah, like, oh, you're the best wife ever. You're a fucking dumbass bitch. You drain my nuts and feed me food, and I'm a happy boy. And that was also fake. Yeah, for sure. They had something to promote as well. Yes. Which is, I mean, as long as you are... not lying like once when somebody calls you out and they're like this is bullshit right and you're like yeah that was just a skit too that's like that to me is just like bad comedy it's genius comedy it's genius i mean it's terrible both of those videos are terrible but it is genius marketing but the the fake podcast the fake podcast one was fucking good yeah like the fake podcast was like it it was a skill not that it's so hard to make something look like a podcast you literally just need a mic but like Her acting. Yeah, it was good. It was, like, really good. Yeah, it was like, you know what? That sounds ridiculous. Nobody gets their dick sucked seven times a day, seven days a week. That's just not sustainable for my nutties. But you're still just like, maybe she is doing this? I need to know more. I also think that, like, nothing shocks us. I mean, it's like, I'll believe anything if it's that stupid, because I don't actually care. It's like, damn, that's crazy. And people are like, you know what? An interesting take for me to have would be like, that's actually too much dick sucking. Yeah, yeah. Which in the mind of a simpler person is an insane thing to proclaim publicly. Yeah, no, it's only the fact. I guess it was just also no one. I didn't see anyone being like, I don't believe this. That wasn't the.

response it was it was more crazy it was more like oh hell no yeah lol my nuts be dusty after this but but i'm saying like no one was like this woman is lying there is no way that is not physically possible which usually that's what it turns into on the internet is people being well i i have some data that proves huberman's like well actually the human body cannot actually operate like that and i have some data to back that up Oh, that was a good lisp. No problem. I can do nerd pretty well. A rare lisp. I wanted to discuss an epidemic, a pandemic, that's sweeping the East Los Angeles area. All right, Fauci, what we got? Country line dancing. It's a disease. I know. Stud country. is the most popular version of this but then i saw like this i saw somebody had their birthday somewhere last night so i saw more dancing on my timeline in chatsworth chatsworth yeah getting chatty with it but i i think line dancing is hard to be like actually good at i think it's easy and hard the same way it's like hard to i don't know it's To me, dancing is like a blank canvas, and you're doing whatever expression that is yourself, and it can be whatever you want it to be as long as you're having fun and it's you. Country line dancing is painting by the numbers and the colors. It's more prescriptive. Yeah, it's, I don't know, it takes the dancing out of it. The expression of it is removed from me. I just don't like group. plan stuff like i don't i don't want to work out with a group it's like physically playing a board game i don't want to dance with a fucking group like if you want to dance you should be on drugs and doing and like just going crazy it where when does it go from you've got the country line dancing you've got the chicken dance you've got the electric slide these are all like yeah what is this menial like kindergarten level there's things that you do at a wedding there's like a fucking dance place on melrose like a like

Chicks go there in their rolled up sweatpants and their fucking TNs. And it is fucking packed. Like a line every day. And I think people think this is like a way to express themselves. Well, it's how I shake off my Sunday scaries. I get that. I know you do. I know you do. I'll leave my aloe tote by the door if you could just make some room. I think it's like... I'm fine with that. To me, that's like there's like just going to a club and dancing to music that you love. That's the best form of dance expression. The second best is what you're saying, where it's like everyone goes together. You have like a free form. No, it's not sort of choreo. It's still choreoed. It's choreoed, but it's everyone's doing their own kind of thing. You're adding your own flavor to it. But the country line dancing is literally just like it's like doing a crossword puzzle. It's just like the all the answers are here. And it's all there. It's fun to do, but it's never going to be more than a crossword puzzle. We need to talk to somebody who actually does this because I hear about it and see it a lot. I've done it before. You haven't gone to this party. No, no, no. I've done it before too, bitch. I grew up in it. That's my shit. I've done it in the American South. We did it in – I believe this was part of our curriculum in physical education class in middle school. I'm not kidding. Yeah. Damn, I had beach volleyball. You had boot scoot and boogie. Because you'd be two lines facing each other, and you'd meet in the middle and do-si-dose around, and then go back to yourself. This is all rushing back to me now. Grab your partner. Yeah, grab your partner round and round. But the idea, I feel like the stud country shit, because it's a gay party, I think. Yeah. All are welcome. Yeah, of course. All are welcome if you're down to get flipped. You know what I'm saying? Women are allowed no uglies. Yeah, of course. It's sort of the unspoken agreement. But it feels very popular. It is. And, like, I just don't... Yeah, I mean, I don't... I think... In the same way, Cards Against Humanity is very popular. Yeah, I would say it's similar. I mean, at least... Like, hey, can't go to a house party and just talk? Yeah.

Try this. I can't go to a club and just dance. I've got to have a fucking live band and a guy showing me what to do. I understand it is fun to be doing synchronized moves with a group of other people, and that is fun. We're not really hating on it. It's more of just like we're talking about how it really has popped up. If this is happening now, this is the end of nightlife coolness culture. I was watching that Nan Golden documentary, and it's like... The early New York scene, late 70s, like crazy poetry, artistic expression. Well, poetry readings are also a cancer in our society, and those are happening as well. But, you know, like the beginnings of ESG and punky dance music and loft party. It's like pure artistic expression, pure rebellion, just this beautiful, insane inception out of nowhere. And this is like... the antithesis of that now we pay [redacted address] 45 minutes to listen to yeah i mean i mean to me it's like i blame covid like covid ruined nightlife it like it it sucked the life out of out of life out of nightlife for like two or three years it's like we were we had we've been set back everything was going fine that came and it was like getting chemotherapy on the club Lose all the hair. Got to go back to square one. And we're still crawling out. And we're just like, there's nothing to do anymore. There's nowhere to go. Well, the problem is the cool stuff that probably happens is even less appealing to me because it's at a warehouse and it starts at 1 a.m. and the music is awful. I was talking about this with Lloydski in New York last week. And I was like, yeah, I mean, the only thing to do if you want to go see like a cool DJ. it's like a warehouse downtown he's like bro i'm 40 i don't want to go to a fucking downtown slime ball warehouse like can we just get like a nice place and i'm like that it truly does not exist i mean i was talking to john mcswain the other night and he was telling me about stuff in la i'd never heard of he's like oh it's pretty good they play you know what i mean blah blah blah and it's like nice but he was describing places i'd never been to and he was like but there's always like an issue like the music is really good but like

The dance floor has tables on it. There's always some problem. It's never just like, oh, this works. The sound system is dope, but the crowd is the worst people you've ever seen in your life. A guy in a wheelchair is going to crash into you. Exactly. There's always some caveat about it being good. But I think that the line dancing thing, I wonder if we'll see it. Like, I wonder if there are other – like, you know, in New York, I don't think you can go find that. I don't think you go to Queens and you go – you know what I mean? You can't drive 30 minutes and find that. You don't have to because it exists in, like, Manhattan and Brooklyn. I don't know if it does is what I'm saying. It does. Oh, it does. You mean, like, cool shit? No. I mean – Country line dancing. Like, I'm saying, like, in California, you drive a little bit and everybody's a redneck with a yellow truck. You go to Queens, it's Stiles P. It's not fucking – It's quiet for your 10-gallon. Yeah. The Stetson ain't ringing bells on 135th. You go to upstate California, you're driving through Fresno, you're driving through Bakersfield. Obviously, you go in a lot of places in the country, that's fine. In New York, how far do you have to drive to get country from New York? Not far, because you can go to Pennsylvania. I just think that it's like... I don't know if you have access to it the same way in New York as you do here. It's not within your arm's grasp. But we're going to continue to monitor the country line dancing epidemic. Maybe we'll go. I would go. I bet your flippin' ass would. I wouldn't participate, obviously, because men shouldn't dance, as we know. I'm on record. You'll just grab a Bud Light and kind of saddle up on one of them stools? I've just been trying to test out some new belt buckles. This feels like kind of the place to do that. And maybe a bandana. Let me get a Bud Heavy. Well, I just think that I do want... No, no, no. I pee on you, not the other way around. I want to see what the crowd is actually like and just like, is this basically just a bunch of fucking people from El Prado? Because that's what it feels like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the next step down, not up. It's so weird. I learned about something new last night as well.

Last night, okay. I went to Ja with Brett, Easton Ellis, and Ryland. That's a nice trio. It was really fun. And Brett was talking about basically he keeps up with male porn stars. And there's all these websites that are like the trades for gay porn. Like, who's signing what deal? Who's with what agency? And I had no idea. Like, deadline for Dick. Deadline for Dick. And Ryland was like, oh, yeah, Falcon.net? Like, whatever it was. Like, he knew. He knew? Yeah, he was like, oh, I've heard this before, too. Falcon.net. And I was like, this is such an interesting thing that I'd never heard of. And, like, so, basically, it's, like, for Brett or someone, like. This is, like, wrestling. For someone like Brett, I think he's like, oh, this is just baseball. I don't even think about it. It's not super like – He's like the guy at the horse track with his program and his pencil behind his ear. Yeah, exactly. Oh, he stopped doing – okay. It was just so interesting because the way he was talking about it was really interesting. Talking about the money and how you make money and how James Dean – because James Dean was in his movie years ago and they've stayed friends. I guess James Dean went and bought back all of his clips. and now has them on jamesdean.com and is like a fucking multimillionaire. Taylor's version? Yeah, yeah, yeah. James's version. And I was like, God, that is so interesting. Like, it's so interesting. I wonder how much it costs to buy back all of your fucking masters. That was the thing. He was like, it costs nothing, and now he owns everything. We'll call it eight grand. And now he has a production company, and he's like just killing. Just like raking in money, not doing anything. The thing I like about that with gay porn, I'm assuming, is it feels like if there is a trade around that and it is an ecosystem where people want to keep up with the statistics of the behind-the-scenes action, then I feel like you're more prone to support it financially versus just getting it for free or pirating it or whatever. You want to...

Put your money into the pocket of your favorite sport fucker because you want to see them keep doing what they do. You're investing. Supporting the arts. But I was just like, I guess I just never thought about it. Like, of course, an industry that big, there's going to be people covering the news in the industry. I mean, there's this for dentists. There's this for fucking plumbers. It's all the same thing. But I just never thought about it. Yeah, I mean, I guess with the sex trade. It really is interesting to make it so clinical and to put it on a spreadsheet. Yeah, it's just like this is the news. This person signed with this new production company. The deal is going through. I guess it's some elevated thinking. Yeah, it is. Well, I mean, it's just like anything where there's money to be made, people will look at the business of it and find interest there. But all you hear about is how nobody's making money in that except. But someone's got to be making money. Well, I think that was the whole thing. You've got to own the rails. Well, a lot of guys, basically the straight guys, hold out as long as they can. And then they go G for P. And rake in the money like ten times. They turn the faucet on and it starts dumping. Yeah. And I was like, oh, interesting. And Ryland pointed out that a lot of bodybuilders get into this as well. Sure. They're like, I will never. ever do gay porn but yeah it was just a very it was an interesting i mean we we held it down for three hours at jar it was it was a long beautiful i know well brett was sober two sobers one drinker yeah brett was drinking yeah but brett was brett had just gotten back from like he's doing legs of the tour for the shards king kong cover looked good it's sick yeah shout out to senna for shooting that i love those pictures but he was like he was like i was like bro what's this signing like like what are we looking at he's like oh you know like the meet and greet book signing you know 400 people i'm like 400 people and he's like he's just like bro i've been doing this for so long i know how to keep it moving but he's like in europe it's funny because the

People be like, you only got to do an hour. He's like, I'm not going to do an hour. I'm going to sign all the fucking books. I'm not going to do an hour. These people came to see me. I'm not going to do that to them, which I like. I like that about Brad. But people show up with fucking American Psycho posters and fucking blah, blah, blah. So it's like a whole thing. But he's like, yeah, you'll be there for three or four hours. And that's kind of what the job is. I like that about him because. It's very David Sedaris-y of him where he seems like the opposite of David Sedaris in many, many ways. Yeah. But they're obviously so similar in many, many ways, like similar age range, gay, successful writers. But they both have that thing where they're like, if somebody wants to wait in line for three hours to get me to sign their book, I'm going to wait. I'm going to sign them all. I'm going to talk to every single person. If they're going to ask me a question, I'm going to play with them a little bit. I love that. I like to think that if that ever happened to me, I would be the same way. Yeah, I wouldn't be. No, no, no, I would. I think that's the right thing to do. But that's your opportunity to say crazy things to your fans and vice versa. Well, I think the problem is that often people don't know what to say and get weird and just want a selfie. Which adds, like, when he was doing this in the fucking 80s, it's like, you sign the book and that's it. You know, they keep it moving. You shake a hand. Now there's the added layer of, like, you know? Yeah, you hear, like, celebrity actor dudes being like, I'll shake your hand if you're a fan. Yeah. But I won't take a photo. Yeah, I won't take a photo. Because this is for you and I only right now. This is an experience. But the other thing I learned last night was that MGM Grand. I thought you were going to go a different way with the MGM. MGM Grand had an airline in the, in like the late eighties that only flew from New York to LA. And Brett was like, he's like, I would take this shit. Cause he's like, I was making bread. So I would take this shit. And he was like, you would like sit, you're sitting on like a couch and it's like,

There's a bar with a bartender, and it's only, like, actors. It's, like, basically only, like, industry people. And Rylan and I were both like, what the fuck? And then this morning, Rylan sent me pictures of it, and it's fucking insane. Of course he found the photos. It's insane. It's so amazing. It's literally, like, the fact that – and Brett was like, oh, you could smoke. Like, you could still smoke. Sure, sure. Like, it's like people are doing coke and smoking on a plane. And it was kind of just, like – That was the last peak. of human existence i mean that was the last time humanity had pure ecstatic fun it was so crazy and he was like yeah it only lasted for a couple years because it was just like you know obviously it's a small market it's a small market they're appealing to but i was like what i would pay to take that i would almost rather do that than take the concord from new york to london you know yeah i mean the the bummer of life is in the 80s that was like Somebody came up with the idea for amazing air travel, and that was it. And now we have JSX. No shade to JSX. It's cool, but it's like the amenities are like the chips are a little bit more mesoteric. Well, the amenities is you just don't have to go to the airport. You don't have to go to LAX. That is what you're paying for is to not have to go to LAX. But just that amazing world between private and public air travel, setting the price point so high that only a certain level of people can come. and creating a party environment, as long as you have a sustainable amount of customers, that is so sick. I mean, also, I think even with private, I think even with private, your pilot's a fucking narc, is not going to let you smoke weed on the plane. You know what I mean? Pussy ass pilot. He's not going to let Wiz roll up. You know what I mean? It's bullshit. He won't even let Wiz set up his pull-up bar. Wiz is trying to do... He's like, no, we got to get the big one. I got my Muay Thai guy coming with me. I got to be able to kick in this bitch. Set up the pull-up bar. I want to get to the point where I'm trying to set up a pull-up bar in the G6 for a three-hour flight because I just got to get him out. I got to pump him out. Damn, bro. I mean, that's high altitude training right there, bro. The last episode, we were talking about...

doing drugs with with the national and he was talking about mushrooms and stuff like that and i mentioned like with with all these other drugs you kind of know what's going to happen but with mushrooms it's like a question mark you could end up yeah in the hospital you know if you just do some mushrooms and somebody a listener of the podcast wrote in and he was like i got a little triggered when you said that because like a week ago i did mushrooms and ended up in the hospital not a week ago yeah like a week it was all good just a week ago yeah he said he was doing mushrooms and then he he hit a spliff to kind of activate it sure and then he said like cartoon style passed out and then hit his head on like a curb or like on something had to go get like five stitches he's fine now yeah sure great story but that that's what happens like because you do mushrooms or you do a drug like that and you're like that's only happened to me with an oppressed ecstasy pill in my very early 20s at a cabin vibe a cabin like obviously this is a different pill at a cabin huh i mean bro i didn't know i was just doing drugs and i really is true i woke up in a bathtub and i had fallen into it and like missed the The spigot. Yeah. The faucet. The faucet by, like, inches. If I would have hit the faucet, I would have died. Curtains. Yeah. Damn, bro. Like, I spun around, fell, and, like, landed. I mean, obviously, my neck was a little tight. Like, ballroom style? A little tight, yeah. I did a death drop. Right into the tub. The ecstasy made me crazy. But, yeah, I mean, that's a – but mushrooms, I guess, because they're natural. Also, the fact that Matt was like – chocolates bro no i'm straight i eat that nasty ass cap and stem i'm good bro i'm old school throw a high chew in there yeah i was i was proud of myself for calling that a deconstructed gummy that's really funny because i just put a jelly bean and like half a nug in my mouth and just chew that shit like yeah bro i'm about to be high that rose shit is cute they have a cola flavor i just put a little nug in and take a sip of coke you do things a little differently here it worked for me um

We were talking to an unnamed friend of the pod, and they were at the Trump golf course this weekend. Four. Which I think is over in, like, Palos Verdes, west side. Of course it is. And he said the American flag was flying at half-mast at the Trump golf course. And I had to know why. And you said, you know, probably a member had passed away or something like that. But I just love the idea that because of Trump's indictment, somebody at the golf course was like, we better go half-mast on this. I'm not saying that's not what's happening. I'm just saying that is – he's not in jail yet. I think if he was in jail – Well, once the handcuff photo is released, then that's going to quarter-mast. He's not going to go to jail. We're not going to – I don't think we're going to get – if we get a perp walk picture, it's because he wants us to get that. And he should because that's iconic. It's going to sell a lot of Daily Mails. Dude. Well, I mean, yeah. New York Post. A lot of posts. A lot of posts. A lot of everything. A lot of fucking Crown Heights liberals buying the New York Post with him getting arrested to save for their child. When you turn 18, you'll get your inheritance and you'll also get my collection of Trump newspapers where he did bad stuff. It's my victory. I mean, I'm never going to go to a Trump golf course, but... Just seeing a half-masked flag when nobody has died. What if the flag has been half-masked since Trump left office? Since January 6th, since Trump left office. They're just waiting. They're praying to God that their man can win so they can put the flag back up because it's kind of aging weird because of where it's hitting the sun different than it was. All right, so we have, yeah, our tickets have been released on howlonggone.com. Shows are going to be selling out eventually, sooner than later, so make sure you buy those tickets. Go get your tickets. Philadelphia, Chicago, Atlanta, London, bruv. We're excited to get back on the road. I mean, I guess, yeah, we're excited to get back on the road. Yeah, we're excited to get back on the road. I'm actually really excited to go back to these cities. All joking aside.

I just think it's fun in a different way, I think. Yeah, because it really is an experiment once you've been to those cities before, in the earlier stages of our podcast, and you go back and it's like checking in on an old friend or you planted a garden and now you're going to check on your tomatoes. Yeah, no, I agree. So the tickets are on sale. Go get those. I was going to ask if you watched Lil Yachty on SNL. I did watch Lil Yachty. Actually, last night I watched SNL live for the first time in many years. She was pretty good. She was good. I liked the Yachty. I think it was cool. I loved the backing band. It was one of the very rare moments because every time you have a rapper or almost anybody on SNL or any live television performance where it's just like... They hire studio musicians or session players to play. And it's always so fucking stupid. It's always like some weird drummer with a giant kit going... Hitting a lot of cymbals. Those guys love a fucking cymbal. They're playing everything. I've played with Avril for 10 years, bro. I mean, I've been in the game. Yeah, so it's always that. It's always these session musicians that are always... They're amazing musicians, so talented, but they just don't have that factor where it's cool. It never feels like a real band. and it seems like he did a good job or whoever set it all up. It was all women. It was all women, all black women. Coach K did his thing. But it was like they did the thing that everyone else does, but somebody had the presence of mind or the knowledge or whatever to be like, what if we get people to do this who are actually cool? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they all fit in well, and they weren't doing too much. No. They were all talented. It worked out well, and I think people should take note of that. Too many dorky session musicians. It's funny because yesterday I went to Varsity and 194 to look at some vintage clothing, and at Varsity, I was like, and it was the yacht. She was playing. The girl working there was playing the yachty, and I was like, damn, this is pretty good. I haven't put it on since it came out, but I heard it yesterday, and then I saw this, and I was like, it's pretty good.

I wish he was a little more energetic. I mean, obviously he's mellow and all that stuff, but he was a little too... I agree. I think it sounded better than I thought it would. It sounded really good. It sounded good. He was probably going on TV track. I mean, I bet also it's like, I think you're nervous as fuck, probably. I feel like that plays into the movement. Carolyn liked his sparkly hoodie. He looked cool. The whole thing was like a big success. The only thing I didn't like was the girl that he had singing with. She was singing her ass off, and it was a good performance, but she was just off-key a little bit. Yeah, I agree. She was off-key. She was singing her heart out, but she was in third gear instead of fourth gear. No, you're right. You're right. But overall, it's a W. Yeah, it was a W. But yeah, I was, I know, I was happy that it was like as good as it was because I think that stuff is like, that's tough to pull off. It was exciting watching live television. It's great. Live television is, no, it's A+. It makes you really pay attention to it more and appreciate it more. And I wasn't even high. That's crazy. All right, how long gone? Tickets are on sale. Go to our website. The links are all there for all the shows. They will go fast. I'll be on the road doing online mobile therapy through BetterHelp. I'm going to make sure to get Jason a tampon for both of his nostrils so he doesn't kind of get blood on the Uggs. No, they have special nose tampons. Okay, good. I figured that, but I wasn't sure. But I don't like them. It's too scratchy. I'm happy to run to the store for my chick and get the Tampax. I'm not above that. I'm a real man. Okay. That's crazy. Of course all the good ones are taken. All right. How long gone? Thank you for listening. We're back next week with more podcasts. God bless you. God bless.