424. - Uncle Paulie

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It was a fucked up thing, and you were telling me before, you were like, I like Pilates a lot, I think it's really dope, but you mentioned it kind of drives you a little cuckoo doing a workout where you don't really... have a full sweat right i go i probably go once a week to natural pilates over here in hollywood and i really like it but yeah i don't really it's so hard and i'm like my body is truly trembling and rejecting the idea of doing 10 more of whatever they're asking me to do but i just don't i don't really sweat it's it's strange really yeah i don't really sweat and but i mean I don't know. It's obviously my twisted body is maybe just... Well, you're just in that good of a shape because I had that in mind when I was loading up. Did I fuck you up? I'm sorry, bro. I didn't mean to fuck you up. No, no, no, no. But when you were telling me you don't sweat at all when you're doing Pilates, that sounded like it made a whole lot of sense to me. And I'm doing the moves and I'm looking around and my life partner and all the other Pilates girlies are... are doing all of their shit on expert mode, and there's no sweat either. They're definitely not sweating. They're not sweating at all. I could literally... The Sporty and Rich matching set can be worn the next day. That's how dry it is. Okay, well, over on my fucking Legree reformer, I could literally... I could read the reflection on my T-shirt logo in the puddle of water that had gathered. I could literally see if there's a piece of parsley in my teeth in the reflection on the puddle of water that I had created. Okay, so TJ saw God on The Reformer yesterday. And how is your... body feeling today because that's the beauty of pilates especially as a man it really you know it those small muscles that we're not paying attention to we're on the squat rack or with the dumbbells our little buddies having our locker room talk they're getting attention that they don't normally get so i hope you're feeling some sort yeah you're too busy playing grab ass with hunter over there while i'm working my little tiny horny muscles yeah can i walk the answer is no okay so how long

What is the, where is the, because my pain is usually in my obliques and also sometimes my triceps because it'll do like a gnarly arm series. But where are you feeling the most pain right now? It's more of a where aren't, where, no, everywhere. It's truly like my teeth don't hurt. That's kind of about it. But no, like the obliques. Your tongue feels good, but everything else is kind of fucked up. The obliques. Yeah, after I started hostage taping my mouth shut, my TMJ has really gone down. No, it fucked me up. Everywhere hurt, bro. You've never done an oblique exercise in your entire adult life, so this is good for you. That's not true. I've done a lot of Russian twists with the 45 plate. Suck my dick, Chris. Okay, I guess that counts, sort of. Did I have good form at the time? I've learned, looking back, I did not. Maybe it didn't work as it should have, but I'm glad that you joined. I got it done, but. I'm glad that you joined Pilates Mafia, and as a gift, I would like to go on Amazon and see if they have a size 17 in the grippy socks. Because the grippy socks. Oh, don't worry, don't worry. I've already fucking. Did you cop up? Blew out a fucking bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went full. We don't check price tags. Let's just say the amount of Bombus.com points I have right now, I could fly to the fucking South Pole and back in like a fucking Nissan Leaf, bro. Okay, so today for your recovery, I have a feeling you're off and edible right now. But also, have you had maybe a special holiday drink? Yeah, maybe to make you – and I'm not talking about eggnog or maybe a coconut water or a fizzy water or anything, but maybe something a little more special that you found out about today. That I found out about today. Interesting. I think I see you're trying to lead this pony to water, but the problem is I drink so many of those beverages it's hard to tell. Did I go home and crack open a recess? Oh, you bet your little fucking ass I did. No, no, no. I'm not talking about a recess. I'm talking about something that combines. kind of two twisted things into one ultimately twisted oh oh yeah yeah well i mean now that it is december 1st you know i love drinking whole milk right chris that's right i started watching there's like this netflix documentary about this the pepsi challenge this kid was trying to win a fucking yes yeah harrier jet blah blah blah anyway it had me feeling like yo pepsi it's we don't we don't want to sleep on it completely but so you know okay so you're kind of a

Look, I'm from Atlanta. It's obviously a Coke household, wherever I am. But you're from kind of neutral California. All right, push it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah! And I feel like California, it feels like neutral soda territory. Yeah. I actually remember being a kid and doing the Pepsi Challenge at the fucking mall. I won, of course. That's crazy. I remember clear Pepsi. That's the only Pepsi memory I have when they really pushed that. But anyway, I'm sorry. So you were taking a second look at Pepsi is what you're telling me. Yeah, and I thought, what if I combine milk and Pepsi together to kind of – I saw the root beer float milk when I was in Napa Valley, and that kind of was like – It sounds terrible, but also like if they're bottling and packaging it, then somebody must like it, right? Yeah, I mean that's one way to put it. But in our VC-backed culture, literally any – I saw it on my run today. I looked up and saw a billboard that said number one micro-dose cannabis canned beverage in America. And I thought to myself like how – How hard can that be? That's like having the number one podcast in the men's grooming and tooth brushing fashion category. What are we talking about? How specific can we get when kind of congratulating ourselves for accolades? But anyway, I'm sorry. So you thought to yourself. What if I combine some of my high-end, hormone-free whole milk with an ice-cold glass of Pepsi-Cola? Yeah, just get a little squirt in there. I had dinner last night at Rafi's Place, a Persian restaurant, and they have a friend of the show, Rostam. He ordered, when we went there, some dour, which is a carbonated yogurt drink. So, you know, the thought of mixing a carbonated soda with a dairy product, you know, it's... If you turn your nose up at it, that's racist, honestly. It's the erasure of the Persian and Armenian countries. I don't think Kim K would like it at all. No, she wouldn't. Shout out to Skims, actually. I love the new campaign featuring Snoop Dogg and his family. It looks great for the holidays. I wonder if when the Kardashians were all kids, do you think Rob and Khloe, Chris was like, all right, no more yogurt drinking. Do we want to try that? I think you've had enough, Robert.

I think you've had enough carbonated yogurt. Have a clearly Canadian. Yeah. So does it taste good? No, it's very bad. Okay. But is it because, you know, when you when you get the visual on it, maybe like a hot actress is kind of pouring one. And it looks it cut. It kind of just looks like a cold brew. And you got your you got your shorty Alfred going hard body on the on the. is what it kind of looks like. I think if Nana Lohan were to ever... Isn't it cool that Lindsay Lohan looks older than her mom? If Nana Lohan ever whipped it like that, she would have to get... She would have to kind of go Rene Redzepi mode and pull out some xanthan gum stabilizers because if I'm mixing milk, especially with my raw, unpasteurized, grass-fed and finished milk with a can of fucking... Horny-ass Pepsi, there's going to be curdling involved. It's not going to be a smooth mix whatsoever. I agree, and this is something we should – I kind of want to get eyeballs on this next time. Thankfully, we have a culinary guest on our show today who will kind of be able to answer some of those molecular gastronomical questions that I have. Our guest today is kind of my Renee, if you think about it. Because I'm not super into pickling. I'm more into chips and cookies and stuff. Today's culinary adventure is finally Chris Speed. You know what I mean? We finally found someone who's not going to want to talk about their annoying methods. Chris said, you could hold those reindeer testicles pickled in juniper berry. Let me get a motherfucking buffalo chicken Caesar wrap. Yeah, I can't wait to talk to our guest about culinary adventures as well as maybe... Some other adventures that could be, and I don't want to tease this too much, that could be more interesting than Cold Cuts. And I know that's hard. I know that's kind of hard for you to wrap your head around. Look. Because you are a Cold Cuts lover. I'm trying to find some kind of joke about run me my boar's head or something like that. I don't know.

I'll clean that one up in post. I'll punch it in. Boar's Head play is always on the table when you're from Queens. So I think our guest will get that. But our guest today is a friend of the program and a friend of Jason and I's in real life. Paul, better known as Uncle Pauly, streetwear deli owner to the stars. He's got multiple locations. He also has an interesting background in the comedy space that I think we need to explore today because I feel like that part of his story is not really out there. This guy sold more hats than fucking New Era, bro. He's making more money than anybody that listens to this podcast on hats and sweatshirts alone this holiday season. And that is something that I'm not only deeply jealous of but want to hear the ins and outs of because I think that most people that have their lives changed by Pete Davidson, it requires his dick. In this case, Uncle Pauly had his life changed by Pete Davidson, and he didn't have to suck for one second. Well, we don't know that for sure. That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. We have to get to the bottom of that as well. We'll let him answer that question himself. Yeah, he spent time on the road with Action Bronson. He's from Queens. He has a comedy background. He makes sandwiches. He recently became... uh podunk poly uh and purchased a truck it's kind of my his version of country chris he's got the he's got the all-new ford f-150 xlt sport i believe it could be a lariat edition we'll get to the bottom of it but i mean the point is that that thing can hold a lot of fucking sandwiches yeah the amount of the amount of mayonnaise that he can fit in the bed of that motherfucker god damn Not goddamn. Well, yeah, no, let's talk to Pauly. I wanted to talk quickly about our Spotify wrapped, but... No, we can get into it. We got one more minute. Yeah, thank you to everyone for your nice words. Just to be clear, I only did that because I was paid. I would never think of doing one of those, and I just want to clear that controversy up right now, Jason. I don't think anyone doubted that or had any question about that. Okay, good. Whenever you see the hashtag,

Blank partners or whatever shit, you know, it's luckily everyone is sort of like, all right We understand we're gonna we're gonna signal boost and give a great flame emoji So we can get our little bag so we don't have to do Patreon or anything like that, guys. Yeah, it's perfect for us. That's why we do ads like a normal podcast. We don't make you pay to hear us talk about extra bad stuff like Joe Budden. Thank God Joe Budden contents are free. Hopefully you guys can talk about Joe Budden because that's probably the only podcast he listens to other than How Long Gone. Well, I've got a tight 15 savaging Nas ready to go that I think could lead to the hottest debate in How Long Gone history. He's going to wring your fucking neck through the Zoom call. All right, let's give Pauly a call, and we're going to get into all this stuff and more. Hold on to your hat. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable. And they're just easy but, you know, still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. You know, they focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada.

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is your deep ties to the comedy community because this is something that i didn't know about you when we met and it kind of explains a lot to me okay he's he's a chuckle fucker yeah you're a chuckle fucker and i think that the the fan what's the definition of a chuckle fucker uh it's it's usually a uh man or woman that fetishizes comedians for sexual intercourse yeah so that i'm not a chuckle that means that means you'll fuck anything who's got a tight 15 you know what i'm saying Yeah, well, I grew up in the comedy business. My mother, when she was young, she would go to all the comedy clubs in Manhattan. She would go to Catch a Rising Star, the improv, the cellar, all those spots. And then my grandfather had a club in Queens. It was actually a bowling alley. It was random. He actually ended up owning the bowling alley. He worked there, then owned it. That sounds like a nice cash business, if you know what I'm saying. It was. It was like the American dream. He used to set up the pins back in the day. Whoa, shit. Before they had the automated, you know, he used to be 15 years old. Before they had the automated machine, he would be back there with like three other dudes setting up pins after you knocked them down. It was crazy. That is really crazy. Pause, wild pause. It's going to be more blue collar. Like that shit is, yeah. That is blue collar. That's very blue collar. He ended up owning the bowling alley. My mother had the idea when she was in her early 20s to open up a club. Um, they, it was Jimmy's bowling alley. They ended up calling it Jimmy's comedy alley. Um, and she had, she had a really good, you know, 10 years of comedy there. When I was, I was, you know, barely even, I was like eight, but she had, uh, you know, Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans, you know, all the big comedians at the time. Comedy business kind of ended, uh, kind of, um, went into the, into the shitter after, um, all the TV shows came out. Um, even get the improv. and uh hbo and all those um you know because you go watch comedy on tv you don't have to go to a comedy sure sure every channel had like a late night comedy thing so the you know the club closed and she ended up going to work at a lot of comedy clubs in the city when i was 18 i needed a job i ended up bartending far back i feel like you might have had some jobs in high school that we can't talk about here but you mean you mean well what you mean staples yeah exactly yeah yeah i stocked the show the staples yeah

And I ended up, you know, working in the clubs for like 10, 12 years. I mean, you know, since I was like 18 to like in my late 20s, I was working in Midtown. I worked at all the clubs and I was surrounded by, you know, some really funny comedians that I know until today still. Okay. And did you, during that entire run, did you ever get the itch and did anyone ever be like, why don't you go up there and do a little open mic or something? You know, I got the like, you know, I got the inner. I got like the back end of the business and I seen how hard these guys, you know, struggled and to get, you know, so that's why I have a kind of like a respect for them because, you know, some of my boys actually became, you know, great comedians and podcasters or whatever. It's a tough business, man. I didn't want to get into that. It was like, it was a grind. These guys were running around like five sets a night on the train, bouncing from club to the club. It's a, it's a crazy. It's a crazy crap. I mean, it sounds fun as long as you're young. I was funny at the bar with them. We went to the bar and the banter and all that stuff. You're the funniest guy at the bar for sure. No question. These guys get on the mic. They have to perform. You're a natural. That's the difference. I'm quick. Yeah, you are low-key nice with it. I have noticed that. But, I mean, nobody busts a better ball than Pauly, I say. Well, you grow up in Queens. You've got to have that ball-busting mentality. If you get kicked out of the schoolyard, you can't take it. I would love to understand this Queens pride. Because I'm from Atlanta. I have some pride, I guess. Jason is from Orange County. He reps Orange County. But Queens, for some reason. Everybody I know from Queens, it's like the first thing they have to fucking tell you. You know, they can't just be like, my name is Pauly. The first thing is I come from fucking Queens. My name is Pauly. Nah, do I do that? No, I don't think it does that. You could kind of hear it when I'm, you know, I can't get rid of it. That's a good point. It's pretty self-explanatory, yeah. I mean, no, I mean, I don't know what it is. I don't know, you know, I don't know. I don't know what, you know, it's a great place to be from.

It's a great place to be from. Is it really? Yeah, I mean, I've seen Entourage. I understand how it all works. There's a lot of pride. Believe it or not, I didn't even watch that show. You didn't watch Entourage? I watched it recently, like a few years ago, I think. But I never, when it was on TV, I didn't really watch it. It was good. No one's ever said that about Entourage. Everyone's always just like, it's the dumbest shit, but I can't stop watching it. Or like, I am Queens Boulevard. I think so. I just want to understand because I know all these guys from Queens. They want to tell me about it, you know, but it feels like a working class community. Is that fair to say? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. A melting pot. Okay. It's a melting pot as well. So there's lots of cultural happening. Yes, absolutely. So you had friends from all walks of life, I would imagine. Yeah. United Colors of Benetton, basically. It was, you know, you grow up, you know. Colombian, Dominican, Greek, Korean, Chinese. I'm from Flushing. It's all Asian. B-boys, freights, rooftops, turntablism. All the five elements of hip-hop. You do seem like a guy who's representing the five elements of hip-hop, but I didn't know you had such ties to the Asian community like our friend Jason. That's interesting to know. No, I wouldn't say that I have ties to the Asian community. Am I going to get canceled? I don't know. Be careful. Yeah, Chris is trying to lead you. Flushing Main Street, if you're from Queens, you know that it's Korean and Chinese. That's what it is. But that's like the number one place they tell you to get on the train and go eat because the food is bomb, right? Yeah. Okay. Now, can you handle that kind of Asian spice or is that too much for your palate? Some of it's, I mean. I don't know how it's unenjoyable. I mean, some of them. I agree. I'm a middle spice guy. I don't want to ruin my day. Yeah, I'm the same as you. Yeah, I don't understand that extreme. I don't understand that. Honestly, I can't even say I understand getting on a train to go eat food at this point. Well, me neither. I mean, we're grownups. What are we doing? When you go back to New York, do you go up to Queens and go to your favorite deli or are you done tapping in? Yeah, when I go back, I go back to like the places that I grew up going to just to like rewatch the movie kind of because I have a shop now.

When I was going there, I wasn't aspiring to open up a place, but I like to go back and get some inspiration. But when you go back to the old deli in Queens, is it like when Kobe goes back to his high school or something like that and everyone's like, oh. No one knows who I am. So no one calls you Hollywood or anything like that? Call me Hollywood. My boys will call me. I don't know. They'll bust my balls. Yeah, but no. You've got to go back to the old stompy grounds. I agree. I do that too, but I don't get any respect either, so it's kind of unfortunate. Jason, when you go to Orange County, are they showing you love at the mall and stuff? Definitely not. Okay, so you're not getting any love either? They're not fucking with the program. They don't understand me. You don't DJ in Orange County mega clubs enough to kind of keep your legacy going. I wish, bro. Actually, I don't worry. Are there mega clubs in Orange County? Yeah, there's some mega clubs in Orange County. I forgot what it is. They're probably called, like, Shark or something like that. You know what I mean? Sand. Yeah, sand. We can hit sand. I mean, Orange County and Queens probably have a lot of similarities. You know, there's, like, there is a little bit of the working class-ish. And around the 90s in the club, there was, like, the kind of Dennis Rodman, like, pimp and hoe kind of. swag going on you know a lot of zebra print velour jumpsuits and things like that i feel like you know over there in queens you guys might have had a little flashy flavor we had some we had some flavor yeah north faces and yeah now when you were when you were a young criminal in queens uh what dude i'll edit i'll edit out i'll edit this no it's all good it's all good it's all good leave it in what is your what was your go-to look how How big were your pants? How crispy were the Air Force Ones? Were the Timberlands uncrispy? The Air Force Ones were always crispy. Pants were baggy. Pants were baggy. I was, like, the first one to kind of come through the park with, like, the fitted jeans. People were, like, getting on me. I went back, and I was like, some of my boys look ridiculous now with the Amiri's. I'm like, dude, you guys were talking a lot of shit. So when you pulled up with the –

When you had the fitted jeans, how fitted are we talking? Because I can't really see you. No, they weren't. No, I'm not saying. Okay, the ball manes weren't painted on. Seven for all mankind, you know. No, you were wearing. Seven for all mankind's tucked into the beef and broccolis. You can literally get that ran through. So when you have to have the crispy Air Force Ones. Were you in that stage of your life where if somebody smudged them or you dropped a little bit of pepperoni grease on them, do you instantly throw them away and unwrap a new box or do you have a home cleaning kit? You could have a home cleaning kit, but I mean to an extent. If they got a dog, you don't want to – you got to trash them. Yeah, you step in some dog shit, it's over, even if it's some Red Bottoms. Well, you had the ones for the club that you knew were going to get dog that night. So you would wear those, you know. Okay. Yeah. And then you would have the ones that, you know. So you have a daylight pair and kind of like a nighttime pair. It's a little bit. That makes sense. It's like Chris's glasses. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what I used to wear glasses. I have different pairs. Paulie, when you have the razor blade in your mouth under the tongue, do you ever have a mishap or a whoops-a-daisies where they're like, call 911? Call 911. No, we never had to do that. So you're telling me you're hanging out in Parks and Queens just raw dog. You're just out there hanging out. No, I'm not saying. I just never took the razor. I didn't say that. I'm not saying there wasn't something close by. Let's just say, yeah, he had the pepper spray in the bush over there if he needed to pop off. Yeah, if you walk to the basketball goal and take a right, you know where to find it. I always liked the razor blade behind the ear look. That was a bold move. That was a bold move. That sends out a vibe and an energy to the world. It wasn't so bad. I mean, now it's. Now, when I went back, it's definitely active in New York now. But when I was a kid, it wasn't super. It wasn't as active. You get on the train, no problem. What kind of clubs were you going to in your Air Force Ones? Where were you stomping in your Air Force Ones? Jason, you ready for this? I'm ready. EDM? What? Sound Factory? Quilo?

The Tunnel. Marquis? Marquis was a little later, but yes, we went to Marquis. A little later. Oh, not a little later, but when I was a kid. There was clubs in Astoria, like DNA and all the Greek clubs we would hit. So you were going to dance clubs as well as hip-hop? Limelight. Limelight right before it ended. We were in there. Okay, wow. Yeah. Random raves in a park somewhere. So you were open to all kinds of musical stylings? Oh, yeah. Danny Tomeglia at Vinyl. Jason, that was a little name drop for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a legend. He's a legend. So you and I kind of have a similar trajectory where we listen to, like, you know, whatever, hip-hop and hardcore, but then you would go to raves, or at least I would go to raves when I was still straight edge just because of, like, the people watching, and I was just, like, so into it. And also it was just like funny to see people wide open. I didn't necessarily love the music or even understand it, but then it slowly starts working in and then you can't control your body, you know? Yeah. A lot of hip hop kids went to, um, a lot of hip hop kids went to those clubs. I mean, it was packed with all types of different, you know, it was just open late, you know, it was kind of, it's just like, you know, the girls were there. It was just a cool, uh, everybody was on drugs. But were you, were you off the Molly's though? Chill. No comment. Bro, if you go to a rave and you don't like the music, there's only one answer to that question. I didn't mind the music. I like a little drum and bass here. There we go. A little Fuji's remix. A little jungle. Yeah, a little Aphrodite. Okay, okay. Yeah, I mean, because I would go to the raves stone cold sober. That's crazy. Just for all that. And then when I finally took some ecstasy. And I was like, yo, this Tiesto guy ain't half bad. He's kind of spitting right now. Things got better, yeah. This Tiesto, this shit kind of hard. It's crazy to go there sober, though. It's crazy to go to a rave sober. I don't know. That's a wild. I'm proud to say – I'm proud and both embarrassed to say that I've never been to a rave in my entire life. I've been to, like, warehouse parties that maybe were trying to kind of, like, simulate that. But, like, the heyday of raving, which I feel like I was –

alive for but i was into hardcore was like this is whack yeah like these guys look stupid and they're on drugs why would i go to this but new york was a little different i mean down there i don't know but the warehouse party i mean that was just a rave i mean in new york if you had a abandoned warehouse at bushwick i mean that's where that's what that was a rave didn't matter what they were playing were you driving were you driving a car sometimes or somebody was if i had to do a thing Did you have the Honda Civic with the Rockford Foss Gates? I had the Volkswagen GTI. Oh, of course. The Acura Legend. Big buddy. Nissan Altima. Not the Altima, bro. I went through all of them. That's not even good enough for your side piece, bro. Have you checked out any of Nissan's electric vehicles? They're really nice. Are they a sponsor? Yeah, they are. Go check out those Unisa. Thank you very much. That was very sweet of you. That's a pro. Yeah, I think that I always found that – I feel like if you're an outer borough, you have a car even at 16, like a regular upbringing style. Yeah, I was deep out there. So the train was – to get home at like 4 a.m., 5 a.m. on a train was insane. Yeah, somebody had a whip, and we would hop on LAE. Oh, got to get in the Pathfinder on the LAE. You already know the vibes, Jason. This big CD book. The big CD book that weighed like 40 pounds. Bro, I'm scared of your CD book at that time. Jesus Christ. LimeWire was cracking. We were making a lot of mixtapes. Do you have a storage space somewhere with all your DJ Clue mixtapes and shit? I have a few actually laying around somewhere. But no, I don't have an archive. You guys got to kind of hand that down to your daughter. That's like inheritance. That was a real thing, man. Those mixtapes were important. That was my NFT. Paulie, let's talk about sandwiches just a little bit. Chris is on record for sort of being...

anti-food in general but he does like a he does kind of like a like a jimmy johns veggie set veggie sub i want you to kind of you know you know about sandwiches you know chris and his fucked up whatever personality I want you to prescribe Chris a sandwich. What do you think is going to move his needle? Funny enough, I'm actually launching like a vegan veggie menu, like just to the side, just to have, because I get so many questions, you know, obviously, you know, people want sandwiches, they don't eat meat. So I have to connect it to my customers. The Custis need, you got to serve the Custis. Yeah, which I'm not, you know, I'm not the guy, like I'm not the sandwich Nazi. Like you want to, if you want to have. You could have a nice sandwich without meat on it. I get it. You don't want to feel so full because you don't eat meat, whatever. You could break it up. We're actually launching a nice little veggie menu. Is that a How Long Gone exclusive? Uncle Pauly's Veggie Menu coming soon? Yeah, kind of. You want me to create a sandwich for Chris? For both of us, actually, but I want you to do Chris first. Pause. I like a veggie sandwich with some sort of substance. I don't like a veggie sandwich with arugula sprouts and a tomato. That's kind of like whatever. I did an Italian combo, but not with any meat or cheese. I did it with marinated artichokes instead. The artichokes are marinated in garlic and olive oil overnight. They taste great, and they have some sort of substance. When you're eating a sandwich, you feel like you're kind of eating a sandwich. With the big boys, you know, yeah. Something you can sink your teeth into. So, yeah, we're doing those, you know, eggplant parms. Oh, come on. You know I can't handle that. Oh, man. A little heavy. That's a big boy lunch. Yeah, like the Italian with the veggie Italian that we kind of created. That sounds good. That sounds good. Yeah, a little pepperoncinis. You can make it spicy. You can add the Calabrian chili spread. It's got a nice little – it's like you're eating like a nice substantial sandwich. Like my Nona would make, of course, back in Atlanta. Yes.

She's marinated the artichokes. Yeah, exactly. So that sounds pretty good. What would now for Jason, a culinary adventurer, I think that the prescription would have to be quite different. What would you load him up with if you're going boar's head mode? You know I love mortadella, Paul. Personally, I'm a three-ingredient guy, four tops. Oh, really? I like it simple. I'm like a chicken, cutlet, mozzarella, roasted red peppers, call it a day. Forget about it. Yeah, just a simple, I don't want too much going on, but the Italian, I mean, is fantastic. You know, it's got the morfidella, it's got all the currant meats on it, iceberg, roasted red peppers, make it spicy. That's number one. I mean, that's the one. There's something about the crunchy iceberg. If it's your first time coming into my shop. That would be the one that I'd tell you to get. Which I actually haven't had before. I need to do that. We'll go by this week, Chris, and we'll get a veggie and a mortadelle. I only go there to hang out with you and kind of check out which guys in gallery department are ordering. This time? This time? I'm coming to eat, bitch. Now, what, you know, the other, because I was, what I love about Jimmy John's, you know, you've, have you built, you've told, right, you've built with John, right? He came to my, yeah. Mr. John himself. I didn't build, I didn't build, I didn't build with him, no. I've met him in passing. Okay, so he came to, because he was like, I'm going to test out what this little bitch is trying to do over here. Like, I'm the God. Like, do you think that was the vibe? Or do you think he's a sandwich lover? Not at all. No, no, I don't even, I don't even, I could, no. I'm not even on his radar. Damn, that's crazy that he would eat a sandwich not at his own place. You know what I mean? That feels wrong to see him out of... I eat sandwiches all over. Is that right? Yeah. I love sandwiches. That's why I opened up a sandwich shop. I love sandwiches too. LA's a little bit of a rough sandwich town, especially if you're from the East Coast. You're one of the only East Coast types of people.

Who have said positive things about the sandwich scene in L.A., maybe. In this area, it was rough when I first opened. You know, you had a large amount of wine and cheese. Phenomenal sandwich. Bay City, you'll catch me a bit. If I'm on that side of town, I'll hit Bay City all day. I mean. Sure. Yeah, there's all, you know, Burbank. You got Mario's. You got Pinocchio. They're only like. 30 to 45 minutes away from me. Yeah, I ain't driving 45 minutes for a sub. I just ain't doing that. At two in the afternoon, it's like, dude, I'll be back by, you know, Dave, I'll be home when it's dark. Yeah, I'm not doing it. But yeah, there's some sandwiches out here. I'm not going to, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm at Mario's all the time over here in Glendale, baby. That's going with the bread that they put in the middle, right? I'm sorry, they do what? Tell me what they do over there. They do a double-decker. They cut the bread into three pieces, so there's a middle bread. So some people like it. You can also get the middle bread removed, Chris. Don't worry. Is that like a style? I've never heard of that before. Is that like their signature? I think it's a signature. I've seen a double-decker before. Can't be that crazy. Yeah, I mean a club. Oh, true, true, true. Yeah, just like a club. But speaking of driving around all over town, I want to get into this pickup truck talk here, Pauly. We saw you with this new truck, and I think Jason has some questions as a recovering truck driver. He texted me the next day trying to get info on it. He was like, oh, baby. Yeah, I texted him like I was down bad. I was like, yo, let me see some pics, girl. Like, yo, you know, like just let me see the inside. I'm moving to Orange County. I'm getting the Monster Energy Drink logo on the back. Got to do that. Got to do that. No, I mean, but it's crazy to see the time because like in the 80s, like pickup trucks, it was like, oh, like a badass, like lifted Toyota pickup truck was like a pretty cool look. And then they kind of got taken over by like racist people. for a long time, and now the truck is kind of coming back into our liberal strongholds, and even Uncle Polly has one. But you put down the 5 Series, and you picked up the 150, and I think it looks very good on you. And I think the truck is going to be coming around a lot more. Yeah, the 5 Series was not conducive to my lifestyle. I couldn't fit my dry cleaning in the back seat. I need the truck for a while.

I know those crew necks are getting a lot of dry cleaning action. We're not even talking about the 50-pound buckets of mayonnaise or whatever you got to haul from Restaurant Depot. The jug of pickles that I got. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I needed it for work, and they didn't really have any available at the time when I was looking two years ago, three years ago. I've been looking for three years for a truck in a reasonable... Three years? Well, for a reasonable price. You know, COVID came and fucking microchip shortage. I don't know. You couldn't get a truck. It was like double the price. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what does it feel like? I get so much respect on the road. Do you know how many sorry hands I get? I'll drive from here to the deli and I'll get six sorry hands. I think I'm some maniac contractor. I've never gotten this much. It's a beautiful thing. I'm finally getting the respect I deserve. Yeah, so it's a little bit of contractor cosplay. They're assuming. You're not saying anything. They're just assuming that you got something in there and you're not afraid to use it. I think they just don't want me to run them up the road. Yeah. No, but I mean, but it's, but for you, you probably, you're, you're a guy who has probably gotten more respect on, on the road and just walking around than myself just in terms of appearances. So like, imagine, so like, that's how you were feeling. You know, you're already, you know, you're tatted up, you're brolic, et cetera, et cetera. You're over at the undefeated gym doing PRs. It's a whole thing. yeah i look at my fucking skinny ass when i get in the truck and i'm getting the sorry hands and i'm king of the road it was such i would never felt that feeling in my entire life i can't believe you still don't have one well i mean i it's it's still around but he drove one but it's also it's like a chick truck it ain't i mean jason you would agree what's a chick truck rav4 it's a fucking it's a nissan No, I mean, it's not a giant truck. It's not jacked up. Yeah, I'm joking, but it's not raised. It's not the Desert Storm camo Toyota Tacoma you see on every streetlight. No, he doesn't have any roof racks or anything. It's just a regular truck. It was a four-door black pickup truck. It was pretty stock, nothing going on with it, but just that feeling. And also, it was around the same time where I was...

I've always been into riding my bicycle, and I never wore a helmet because I thought it was for pussies. But around that same time, I was like, all right, I'm getting a little older. So you need it. I'm engaged. I got people that worry about me and all that stuff. Yeah, you've got mouths to feed. I don't have any dependents yet, but maybe one day. I have a beautiful puppy that cares about me and needs me. I wore the helmet the same time I got the truck, and I would feel the way that people look at you. They looked at me. I had a feeling that I've never felt before, which was people looked at me and thought that I was a responsible person, and that was a hat that I had never worn in my life. And I've found that women want to have sex with you more when they think that you're a responsible person, which is also a new thing that I did not know about until my mid and late 30s. I'm sure it's appealing. I can see that appealing. I can see that for somebody. I can see that for somebody. I just used irresponsibility to have sex with people for my whole life, and then a sea change. Beck style. Jason needs a truck bad. You had to see the text the next day I got. I'm down bad, bro. I'm down bad. He's like, what's the VIN number? He's like, yeah. What's the VIN number? No, the problem is Jason just got a new car and he thought he was bad with his little Benzo on Lorenzo's with the tinted windows and the cappuccino interior. But I think he saw the truck and he was a little bit like, damn. He's too tall for that shit for the Benzo. You're too tall for the Benzo. You need a big boy. He thought he fucked up. He thought he fucked up. I think he was having... I think he fucked up, too. I think he fucked up. I'm going to be completely honest. We're friends, right? I mean, you fucked up. By the time the Cybertruck finally hits the streets, I will talk. Don't worry. You and I will race home from fucking horses and see what... I'll do 300 on the dash. Suck my dick. I don't think...

I don't think that the – now, do you have access to another more normal car, or is this your daily driver? Yeah. Oh, you do. Okay. No, I have access to a normal car. I have a Volvo for the family. Oh, that's – But the family likes the truck. Really? Yeah, my kid thinks it's a monster truck. She loves it. I dropped her up at school today in it. She thinks it's the best thing in the world. I would love to see Pauly in the drop-off line. What is that looking like? What kind of celebrities have you made friends with at the school that also have kids? Well, I can't say that, but it's a quick shake some hands, a lot of head nods. Yeah, it's a quick drop-off. So you're not building with other parents? I am. No, I am. No, no, no, for sure. We just can't talk about it, Chris. I haven't had my... We're still drinking coffee. It's not really time. People are going to work. I got shit to do. I'm not sitting there schmoozing with some random parent. Time is money. Jigga. Jigga. Me and Jigga are in a building. I want to know about your... Because this is a conversation I have with people who are around our same age who have kids and jobs and careers and dogs and all this shit. Yep. Chris hates all of it. All of it. Trash. You know, owning a home versus, you know, all that stuff. And I look at my life, and I'm not that busy, but I feel like I'm always busy all the time, and I feel like I don't have time to do all this other stuff. And then I look at you, and you've got all this stuff going on, and you have a family, and you have a kid, and you're dropping them off at school, and all this. You're doing so much more stuff than I do, and you just have, like, the... The motor inside of you is just running a little bit faster than mine is for whatever reasons. Genetics, who knows? But was that something that was always – Yeah, genetics. That's what it is. It's genetics. That's what it is. I can't keep – I can't – yeah, it's just genetics only. Has that always been inside of you since you were a little kid or is that something that you had to teach yourself as you got older? I had to teach myself that as I got older.

Obviously, having my own business is just like – it's go time. Yeah, sleep. You need sleep. I mean I'm in bed by 9, 30, 10. Look, I know you say that, but I also – That's AM? Yeah, yeah. No, because if I'm going to boys' dinner or boys' night, obviously those are my nights where once a month where I get to have a beautiful dinner with Chris and Jason. Once a month? Yeah. Once a month. Last time I went to the dinner was with you guys. Once a month. i mean i kind of believe you what do you think i'm up here um a lot of coffee jason helps okay yeah just you know it's it's it's go i feel like i'm at the age where i just go time it's like um there's not enough hours in the day for me to get shit done you know i'm home i come home i'm working at home like you know i got the kid i put her to bed i'm on the computer i'm working on stuff uh up early you know me and chris ceo hours you know i'm not i'm not jogging barefoot up beverly uh But, you know, I'm up. You go where you belong to the streetwear gym and you get your little lift on. And I love to see that. That helps a lot, too. I think I learned this as I got older. Do you ever feel like you're burning out? Or if you push it too far, then something happens? Or do you make time and set time aside? I set time aside. Last week, I didn't do anything. I literally ate and napped last week. But you're more than happy to rest and relax just at home. You don't need to go to Z-Wantanejo for a week and a half. Well, I'll do that too. Bro, he does it all. Uncle Pauly's getting money, bro. He can go wherever he wants to recover. He ain't like us, Chief. It is raining today. He could change the weather. Yeah, you've got to have time. Like going to dinner with the homies and having those type of moments help kind of reset and just blow up some steam. I'm around. my wife and my child most of the time, or I might work with my staff. So it's nice to go once in a while, you go to dinner with the boys, go to lunch or something, and kind of just put the phone down and disconnect a little bit. I try to disconnect as much as possible when I can. Chris, you taking notes? No, I'm never stepping away. I thought you were a real grussler, but I guess not. He stepped away. I need a little reset.

Get the fuck out of here, Chris. Reset is honestly something that's been made up, I think, and forced upon us by a certain kind of pussy on the internet. I don't think this is real. I'm not saying that anybody told me I have to. I can keep it going. You want me to keep it going? You want me to keep it going? No days off from now on. I need a second to gather my thoughts. I have constant emails. I need a second to think about next year and get things on paper and figure out what I'm doing. 2023 is going to be busy for me, so I've got to sit back. When you mean on paper, are you talking about your black book or an actual? Actual notes for your business. I process it more when I write it down. I can't wait for the Uncle Paulie's moleskin to drop. I was actually going to make one. I'm like, who's going to get one of these? No, you give it out as a Christmas present to all of your great clientele. Absolutely, yeah. That's a nice gift. That's a nice gift. We were teasing the merch empire, and I was saying that you might be making more money on merch than anybody that listens to this podcast from their regular job. I'm a little jealous because we have a little merch program here, and we do okay. I was saying this to Jason. You might be the only guy that didn't have to fuck Pete Davidson for the look. You know what I mean? Shout out to Pete. Yeah, Pete should definitely get the moleskin this year with the gift basket, with the edible arrangements. You send Pete the Calibrian chili spread this year. I did not know when I was opening up the shop that I was going to have a whole other aspect of my business. I think people really – um kind of got drawn to the logo um also that it being a real place it's not like a you know a fictitious thing or it's not cherry yeah i know what you mean it goes back to it goes back to like actual place where you could go and eat and i think food also um hits people a little different people like um repping like a place that they go to all the time and you know what i'm i don't know how to really articulate it but it became a thing i mean it's you know

Obviously, I had a lot of help. Yeah, but a lot of that's like, I think the last time, was it like Dave's Hardware? Like that T-shirt was sort of like the last time? Yeah, Dave's in New York. Dave's Quality Neats? No, no, no. Dave's Workwear, the store. You know, the store on like 16th Street that sells Carhartts and Dickies. Oh, yeah. And everybody wore the Dave's logo. I had a T-shirt of that, and I didn't even know what it was. I was just like, oh, everyone has to have this. And I'm sure a lot of people who wear an Uncle Pauly's hat. are just like, I don't even know what the fuck this is, but I just got to have this hat for whatever reason. No, I think they know. I think probably 80% of them know that Uncle Paul is this. Yeah, 80%. I'm sure there's some people in other countries that have no idea or never been. I always grew up loving the Hard Rock Cafe. Let's go. Those type of... those that merch you know even like if i you know if i see one i'll grab one and i love also the the like tony's tow truck in hoboken like with the phone number and the shitty character on it or whatever like the blue collar you know elevator company or whatever so i kind of wanted to fuse both of those together and that's what we kind of do we just do like a little you know it's like the deli phone number address it goes back to it's the Listen, it's the best marketing. Yeah, well, I was going to say, but you're right, though. I think you're right. You see all these companies making stuff with a fake address and a fake phone number. Richardson Hardware is awesome. It was great, but there was no hardware company. But people love that aesthetic. Yeah, it just hit. And Japan really loves it because they love anything with Americana, like phone numbers and addresses. I'm very humble when it comes to the merch. I'm really happy that it's this thing, and I'm grateful for everybody who wears it. That's good to hear that you're humble about something, because I didn't know if we'd find that today. But I'm glad to hear that. Those are the best situations where it's not a planned thing. You didn't have a marketing creative agency who's like, all right, we're going to make this hat take off. It has to be organic like that, yeah. Like Travis.

you know shout out to him he was really like the one like that really we were open for like six months and travis lived on my block of the deli you're talking about barker or scott scott okay and he came into the he literally came into the deli grabbed the hat off the shelf rocked it you know and fucking was at the um astros world series parade rocking my oh like it was like yeah like it was big and he was like performing at and this is when he was like This is kind of before his problems. Yeah, he lived on the – it was just organic. He just came in and threw the hat on. And it was just – and he got a turkey and cheese and just kept it moving. I'd see him every day. I'd wave to him. And it was just – his DJ started wearing it and Chase B. And it was just like a whole – and it became like a whole thing. They were definitely a big part of that thing taking off and people rocking it. Your deep ties to the hip-hop community continued to pay dividends. I thought it was just – it's unbelievable to me because I also – I didn't know this about you when I met you, but you used to tour with Queen's legend Action Bronson as well. Yeah, we traveled the world together. What did you do on these tours? I road-managed him. I made sure we got the bag. I made sure that the... Basically, I went on the road with my boy and made sure he was good. Okay. That's all. That's what Chris does with us. That's what I do with us. Unfortunately, the money is probably a little less, but, you know, we're working on it. So you had to crack heads in, like, Auckland because they were late with the check. Facts. Yep. That was going down. Buffalo. Buffalo we have. I don't think I'm a lot more. No, yeah, yeah. Buffalo, you don't want to. Yeah. You got to bring a couple extra guys to Buffalo. Yeah, road managed them for a while. You know, we came up together, me and him. We went to high school together. We lived by each other. We hung out a lot.

And then he started rapping and I was like, let's go, let's do this. And I was really kind of like, not his manager in any sense in the beginning, but I was definitely out in the streets. Like, you know, I was in clubs and I was doing, I was all over the place. And I was kind of a mouthpiece like for him. I was playing his mixtape for people, you know, with DJs or whoever put a lot of people onto him. Yeah, yeah. He became popping, rightfully so. And then we ended up traveling the world. You know, he went on tour a bunch of times. We went all over Europe. I just can't imagine you kind of slumming it the way tours forced you to. I know you're younger, but you sharing a holiday inn. It was fun, dude. It was fun. I was in my 20s. We were in Brussels. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, it was great. We were seeing the world. We had our plane tickets paid for. It was kind of fire. It was fire. It wasn't kind of fire. That's why we do this podcast. But yeah, you're a known – you and I kind of butt heads sometimes because of your dedication to dusty hip-hop. That's kind of what you represent. I listen to this podcast sometimes, and I want to crash my car through a fucking wall. I feel like you're taking shots at me. No, no, no. Paulie, I love you, but I think that sometimes the things we love as individuals need to be – Shot taken. Shots need to be taken because you're kind of riding for some things that I just have to. I like my own dusty shit and people come for me. I feel like you don't get checked enough kind of for how dusty you are. I think that's the problem. It keeps you young. You need a friend like me to make sure that like, hey, bro, I know you love Cappadonna, but like you should check out this new artist, NBA Youngboy, give it a shot. The pillage was, I mean, the pillage. Come on. Milk the cow? Because you shouldn't have brought that up. I didn't mean to bring up – because to me, you represent a certain kind of – you have a good time with it, but you're a big Nas guy. You're a big – But I'm a big Kodak Black guy. I know you run the gamut. I know that you have musical flavors. I'm from Queens. I grew up with – Nas is my – there's nobody – there's no Biggie and Pac for me. It's Nas. That's the guy that we grew up with.

you know what wow yeah like biggie was like that's rough biggie was you know around but like that was the one that we were it was written all so it's yeah i have a little nostalgia when he drops a new album i'm fucking excited and he's shouting out queer i'm in my backyard doing fucking push-ups Pauly's doing those little triangle push-ups. Doing burpees to the King Disease 3. So you're listening to him and Hit Boy like it's relevant doing a jail workout to kind of take you back to your youth. What's relevant? I mean, what does that mean? NBA has to make up a new album every week. I can't even keep up with it. No, no. I don't actually understand NBA Youngboy. I've tried. The music doesn't do anything for me. I will say Nas has one great song that will always ring off in the club. Which one? Made you look? Yeah. I mean, that's unbelievable. That's like as good as it can be, honestly. And if you have one of those, then... You're good, kind of, I guess, because people are still coming back to the well, and he ain't giving you any water. You know what I'm saying? Wasn't he nominated for a Grammy last year? Oh, well, come on. Did he win a Grammy? Oh, now you respect the Grammys? Now you respect the Grammys? No, I'm just saying. I don't know. Everybody agrees with Chris Blacks. They don't agree with me, but this is a hill I'm going to die on. I'm not going to a Souls of Mischief show. At the Nova. Like, come on. At the Nova. At Dusty. Well, but there is, you know, for these types of rap, you know, like a Nas and like Souls of Mischief or like these lesser known Dusty rappers from that era, they're playing those shows because they got a, they got a mouse to feed. They got to pay the rent. People like Nas and Jay-Z and all these people who have managed to stay alive, they have tens of millions of hundreds of millions of dollars and investments and all that stuff. But. At what point do they need to stop rapping because it's a young person's game? Or do they have to keep rapping because if they don't, then they'll die? What do you think it is? They're doing it for me. They're doing it for dusty 39-year-olds. If anyone has gray pubes, make some noise for this next one. Yeah, I don't know. I can't call it. I don't know. That's a question for them. I don't know why, you know.

He could stop tomorrow and he'd be, you know. Well, he's made some great tech. He's made some great tech investments, as we all know, which I do like when, you know, members of the hip-hop community diversify their portfolios because I think that's smart. Absolutely, yeah. How much did you lose on crypto? Ten racks, I think. Really trying to really, really take a shot. No, no, no. I just – My Coinbase is – I don't even open up Coinbase anymore. No, neither do I. I bought it the wrong time. I clearly bought it the wrong time. I don't even... Well, I mean, it's not... I mean, we all lost money on crypto, so, you know. NFTs? That was a crazy... One of the worst things Jason's done to me in our abusive relationship is force me to do a how-long-gone NFT in the early days that I can't... unfortunately, people like to tell me about when I'm disparaging the NFT community. There's still hope, brother. There's still hold the line, Chris. You never know. I'm holding the line. I know, I know. We're holding the line because we forgot our password to Coinbase. That's the only reason why we haven't sold it. Exactly. You need to do a double identification with the ID. What are we talking about? Our favorite supermarkets? No, we're going to talk about Erwan and we're going to talk about Kanye. Kanye just, oh, man. You just went off. Because you're a known friend to the Jewish community, so I know this is hitting kind of hard for you. I think it's just all crazy. I mean, it's just the whole thing's nuts. I mean, I don't know what the end game is here. Yeah, that's the question. Do you feel like it's just self-sabotage on another level? Yeah, is it like a – I'm not – probably somebody's going to comment on this, but I think that one of those personality disorders is like – self-sabotage is like one of the main symptoms of it. And I think when things are going really good, you throw a wrench in your whole life. You torpedo it. Yeah, I think that's exactly what's happened. Because he was on Alex Jones today, and he was saying like – first of all, he's wearing a face covering. I don't want to laugh. He was saying don't sleep on Adolf Hitler. He said Hitler's dope. Hitler's dope. Hitler's dope is crazy. But it's all really – the problem is with stuff like this, it's so dark.

but then he continues to do the same thing where it becomes like a parody. So then it's kind of funny. It's this weird thing where I'm like, this is so bad, but he's being so insane that like, I can't almost, I can't almost take it seriously anymore. It wasn't so funny. I think this is the one that was like kind of scary. Like he pulled up, he pulled it. he pulled a mitten out or something and like started talking with a puppet yeah did you see that like whoa i mean this is it's more sad than anything i'm watching this guy you're watching somebody have a mental breakdown i mean alex jones literally was like nah bro i think you alex jones is like you're going too far alex jones basically said like you gotta chill bro you gotta chill alex jones said hold this l he's never done that he's never done that he's never done well I kind of see Kanye's angle where it's like if we're all children of God and we all have love and Christ inside of us, then even if we do bad things, even if I killed that guy or if I killed 8 million of those guys, I still have love and the potential for positivity inside of me, which I understand, but it's also – I'm not agreeing with that. I don't think this is a spin move. You can't really spin this one. This was a crazy one. I'm not trying to spin. I'm not trying to spin. I'm trying to get my head inside of what Kanye is thinking. Is he distilling everything down into this thing where it's like – I don't think he's thinking. I don't think he's thinking. I think he's talking, much like me. From time to time, I don't think about what I say beforehand. But I'm not him, and I'm not saying things that are that inflammatory. But I also think that he – I think this is a rejection of the Kardashians. That's what I think. Listen, the whole thing is exhausting. What do you mean by that exactly? Just seeing him, it's just exhausting. I mean, I haven't watched the whole interview. I'm not going to, but it's just – I only watch the academics clips. Because I know you're a big – are you friends with ACK? Can you plug us in? No, I'm not friends with ACK. All right, so are you friends with Joe Budden? Can you plug us in? You really like the Joe Budden podcast. Now that's your podcast.

It's the only podcast I listen to. That's his How Long Gone. I feel like no one can get me to Joe, though. It's weird. He should come on How Long Gone. Why don't you just DM him? You can't just DM him. Slide in. Slide in, Chris. Come on. I don't have a Brazilian butt lift. I'm not a bartender in New Jersey. You got a check, though, right? We don't pay our guests, unfortunately. Sorry to break that news to you right now. No, he meant a blue check. A blue check. Oh, a blue check. Oh, even a blue check. I mean, he might open it with the blue check. You never know. Yeah, he might open it with the blue check. That's true because – Chris, you miss 100% of the shots that you don't shoot, Chris. Yeah, you got to shoot your shot. My logo has been confused as Illuminati by the hip-hop community before, so I think this could be an opportunity where he maybe thinks I'm trying to indoctrinate him. What's your logo? I got to pull this up. It's just a pyramid with an eye. It's a pyramid with an all-seeing eye. There's a lot of Freemasonry going on. Yeah, very Illuminati. So you think I have a shot with Joe based on the Illuminati? Oh, for sure. They're calling. Finally. Nobody loves the Illuminati more than 48-year-old rapper. Yeah, that's true. From Jersey. Yeah. He really reps for Jersey. Do you have any relationships in Newark? No. He's very Jersey. No. Is New Jersey like the Orange County of New York? No. Long Island's the Orange County of New York. Oh, shit. He really reps hard for Newark and all his boys on the show. You probably know some of his boys. You must know Maul, the former co-host. Those aren't his boys anymore. Yeah, but you must know him. You must know Maul or Roy. You don't know Roy? I've been out here for eight years now. I don't even know if I'm a New Yorker anymore. That's scary, bro. I think my Zaza R Us card got revoked. You turned in your Metro card for the Erewhon membership card is what you're saying. Yeah, but only at the smoothie bar. I got that membership. I don't have the full. Oh, really? Bro, come on. You're making too much money to just do smoothie bars. I'm not doing $50 cream spinach. You're out of your mind. Sorry. $50 cream spinach. I'm free of the smoothie on the app.

Keep the truck running. In and out. You're not going to catch me 45 minutes at a smoothie bar. What's the smoothie? Are you getting the peanut butter blast? All day. Extra whey, baby. Oh, whey? Come on. Come on. We're plant protein, bro. You can't do whey. You're plant protein. We're bulking, baby. So it's an Uncle Pauly dirty bulk season, or are you trying to do a clean bulk? Oh, we're doing... What's dirty bulk? That's when, like before you do your cutting season, you go to Hot Wings Cafe for the 60 piece. No. That's dirty bulk. I try, no. I'm doing clean. Okay, so you get the peanut butter smoothie extra away. Yeah. I've never tried that before. Do you add anything else? I add spinach to get my Popeye on as well as chia seeds as a thickening agent. Ew. Ew. spinach to a peanut butter you can't you can't somebody told me one of the employees at the tonic bar told me that like that you can get a lot of greens this way you won't really taste it yeah he's crazy peanut butter and spinach is nuts no it's good it's fine and i have peanut butter is nuts you know my palate you know my palate's blown out you know i can't taste you you're tripping well what do you are you guys familiar with the liver king oh yeah oh yeah we're real surprised that he's on uh hgh guy's got a d-cup Have you ever considered going deep now that you've been really working out a lot more and you're in L.A., you're in Erewhon, you're doing these crazy supplements and proteins and powders and all that stuff. Have you ever considered going down that route of just eating raw liver to just turn into a beast, like beyond beast? No, no. I'll stick to the California Chicken Cafe. chicken okay so you're are you you're a californian do you get the wrap or you go in salad mode either one okay yeah i'll mix it up i'll do sweet greens chicken chicken plate okay okay that's that's why that's why eating lunch is such a is such a gamble because it's not even about feeling like shit just makes me tired luckily i have a i have a sandwich shop where i could go and graze Luckily, I have a shit. Grab a little more of the dough up the slicer. Eat a meatball. I can keep it moving. Grab a handful of iceberg and toss it back. The Uncle Pauly's lunch diet is nice. I like that. You're grazing the offerings. All day. So, Pauly, you said you got a lot of shit popping 2023. Anything that you can talk about? Anything you want to tease out? I'm opening another shop. I can't really say where yet. Unfortunately, I sound like a douchebag.

But it's not in L.A. It's somewhere else. Yeah, somewhere else. Is it in America? Yes, it's in America. Okay, good. I don't know if you had the cater, the cotter. No. Yeah, I could see you doing that. I could see you taking some dirty Saudi money for a little cold cut. Let's go. Holler at me. I'm down. I'm also down. I got a kid to feed, bro. Let's go. So there's another – so the people outside of the beautiful Los Angeles metro area will be able to enjoy your delicacies in 20 years. Yeah, and I also really – honestly, I'm going to keep it real. I want to open up in Orange County. You know what? We should do a scouting trip on a Saturday. Kind of Jason's our guide. You drive the truck. I sit in the back and kind of film everything. Guess who's looking for a – helping me look for a place? My brother. I have him on my phone. It's Chris Jeans. Yeah. My brother's name is Chris Stewart. My name is Jason Stewart, and his name in Pauly's phone is Chris G. That's good. I like that. I can't wait for Orange County to drop. We'll be there for the – I think Jason and Chris should actually cut the kind of ribbon on the opening. Oh, yeah, let's go. We'll do the ribbon cutting. There needs to be like a half pipe or a quarter pipe set up somewhere if you're going to open a store in Orange County, though. It's just a legal thing. Sorry, that's kind of what we do down here. It's just kind of part of the deal. That's great. We love to see you expanding into other territories. And I think now that this episode is coming to an end, it really is time for the How Long Gone sandwich to hit the menu. We were supposed to do it once. We were supposed to do it, and now I think we feel ready, you know, if you are. Um, and we have some ideas, uh, this could be a good way to break out our vegetarian menu. Why do you feel ready now? Uh, because I think we're more established and I've also eaten more sandwiches, you know, just in general. Yeah. So I've kind of, I've kind of test the waters and I think Jason is actually, it's not you. It's him. He had to kind of, he had to do the work. Chris finally, Chris finally had a sandwich. Yeah. I kept, he's like,

I had my first sandwich. I think I get it now, you guys. This thing's pretty fucking good. We can tease a 2023 how-long-gone vegetarian delicacy at Uncle Paulie's. We can officially tease that here. Yeah, let's do it. Wrap your mouth around that, Hoagie. We could do a live pot at the delity like I did the comedy night. How did the comedy night go? It was fantastic. I couldn't believe how good it was. I got up on stage and said a few words. You felt moved. You had to get up on stage. I was moved a little bit. Yeah, it was a beautiful turnout. I'm going to do another one in January. I got some big, yeah, I got some things in the works. It's going to be fun. That's great, actually. It's a great full circle story to start your whole culinary career, you know, bar back in in a bowling alley that did comedy in the back room. And now you have your own business with multiple locations. Orange County coming soon, 2023. And now you're having comedy back in there, and God only knows where you're going to take it from there. Hopefully not Showtime, maybe HBO or Netflix. It's a good – people laugh and drink, and they leave happy. It's a fun little Friday night. Who doesn't like a comedy show except Chris? Well, that's right. Yeah, that's me. I hate them. All right, well – I hate to laugh. I love to laugh. I hate comedians. Uncle Paulie, thank you for joining us today on How Long Gone. Guys, if you want to have sex with Emily Ratajkowski, you can go to Paulie's website, order a hat. Shoot your shot. Jason's wearing one right now. His dick looking dry, but that's on him. I got the baby shit brown Uncle Pauly's hat brand new. That good UPS. That good UPS. Thank you for joining us, Pauly. It's a pleasure, and we'll see you soon, bro. Bless up. Thank you, guys.

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