467. - Chris & Jason

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. W-W-W, how long gone? Them jeans on the ones and twos over there in Glendale. I'm handling the H5 Handy Zoom Recorder here in Manhattan. Step your money up, Broco. H6 on this side. It's been a long, long, action-packed weekend. No rest for the wicked. Them jeans, how are you feeling? Yeah, it looked like New York was alive over there, even though we're drowning in Oscar excitement over here in Cali. I know, I know. That was a rain pun as well. The white carpets of the Oscars have been stained pissy yellow. Thanks to our unhoused problem on the Hollywood area. Have you seen this? That they've turned the red carpet into a... It's no longer red. It's more of a beige. No, I mean, it was white. And then because of the rains and everything, it got all fucked up. But now it's kind of a beige. It's more of an off-white. It's like a Margiela. Well, regardless of what it turned out to be, the fact that it's not red is very stupid. And I'm sure there's some, like... highfalutin reason about that we could never begin to understand that they've justified in their minds of what that means well let's try it and figure it out white carpets matter and i think we should figure out and get to the bottom of it um i read on the drudge report they were trying to do like let's try to really avoid turning this into a political award ceremony and just focus on like the glitz and the glamour of

of a great oscar night let's let's make oscars great again kind of thing yeah and in order to do that the first order of business is remove the red carpet the sign of elegance are they saying the fuck are they saying that because red is the color of the grand old party and they don't want they don't want it to signal what if that was it could be a blood diamond thing i don't know but and also like when in doubt what's wrong with the black carpet uh i mean i feel like it probably doesn't read that well on television is my guess that that must be it but i i don't i mean my issue is and there was a few like nomi wrote something uh for the new yorker about this there's another article in the wall street journal about it about kind of how There was a couple years there where it was discouraged to ask people what they were wearing. And it's kind of like, what the fuck? They borrowed $300,000 worth of clothes and diamonds? That's kind of all we care about? Versus the question that's being asked in replacement of that, which is... what is, like, the vibe you're trying to give tonight, which is almost impossible to answer unless you're an idiot. I mean, what's a less cool question than what's the vibe you're trying to give tonight when you could just be like, hey, bitch, who made your dress? You know what I mean? That's a little more of an easier conversation. Hey, big head. Hey, big head, who made them big slacks? Yeah, because, I mean, that literally removes any whatever chutzpah about fashion is, like, you shouldn't, have to ask or tell somebody what vibe you're trying to create because you're only expressing yourself with these clothes so it's it's like instead of reading a book it's just asking somebody what's the could you just tell me what the book's about so i don't have to read it it's like could you just tell me what you're trying to accomplish because my pea brain can't figure it out on my own or even if i don't even know that i want to try to figure it out because that part of my brain has been burned off well they they tried to make it you know about like some political issues or like equality issues and you know blah blah blah and it's like dude like this is what this is about let's not try to pretend the red carpet is anything but famous people wearing expensive clothes and us saying they look bad they look good that's the only purpose it has nothing

That's the trade-off. It's fine. That's just what it is. I don't know how that harms anyone. I don't know how that hurts anything. I just don't understand what the downside of that is. That's what we do. That's why it exists. It's not the awards. It's not like we're debating a performance. It's literally meaningless fun. We're debating a Luke is what we're doing, and that's the way we like it. When you make that something more than it is, I think it just makes you look a little stupid, Academy. Andrew Garfield is going to be wearing another awful suit um that he can't pull off and i want to talk about that god damn it and you know if you have a bow on your blazer that's something that i feel like i have the right to comment on and i'm not going to allow the academy or the woke mob to take that away we're not going to let rock voice magic mike xl get away with his his valentino hemline his dented shoulders his dented versace shoulders oh honey the dented shoulders the who did your padding kill them but I think the main difference is back in the day we would judge those looks and we would need we would literally need that person to tell us who are you wearing because we don't know. Yes. And now if you don't tag who you're wearing and who parked your car and who your hair artists grandparents are, then on your Instagram post of your look, then you've been. You've been done a disservice to society. It's true. You're tagging your hosiery creator. You're tagging your cobbler. Obviously, your eyelash girl is getting a hashtag. She doesn't really use Instagram that much. The very lovely woman at Neiman's is the person who helped me pick this bag out. Here's her at. Donate to her. Go fund me. Yeah, follow my personal shopper at Saks Fifth Avenue, please. And while I was buying the shoes, I did hire a dog walker to walk my dog and make sure you create some space for her business as well. I can't wait to see the tags this year. Obviously, I'm going to be glued to the E red carpet. What time does Andy Cohen... Is Andy Cohen at it again on that shit? Oh, no. Andy doesn't do that. Andy, that's, I believe, below his pay grade. I think it is... What does Andy do, then? I feel like the Oscars is more important than New Year's Eve, right? Jason, Andy has more... For E? I mean, I think it's just not his... I don't think...

I believe that he is more of a... You would know more than I would. I'm not trying to argue with you. I mean, he literally created every show on Bravo and is probably busy counting his money. Yeah, then why are his little knees knocking every New Year's Eve on wearing his lower piano sweater? Do you know how much you get paid to host New Year's Eve? You're not going to get paid that much to host an Oscars red carpet. It's not the same. I do not know how much you get paid to host the New Year's Rockin' Eve, Chris. Do tell. Well, I mean, I'm not totally sure, but New Year's Rockin' Eve on network television. I know you're totally not sure. is a different proposition than the hosting arrest. Was he getting like $3 million? I mean, what's going to get him out of bed to do that? I don't think it's about getting out of bed. I think it's about the... You know how many people he could be topping on NYE? He doesn't need the money. Well, Bravo is owned by NBCUniversal, so I believe it's a little bit of a... Which is owned by BlackRock, which is owned by Vengeance Capital, which is owned by Bill... The guy who does billions? I'm just saying that I think it's a little more of an inside baseball and a higher brow. It's considered higher brow than hosting a red carpet, I believe. Like, I don't think he thinks he should be asking people what they're wearing, is my guess. Yeah, why bother hobnobbing with Zendaya and Brad Pitt when you could watch a guy pee into his Winchell's cup in Times Square, you know? I mean, I think you have a point. But also, I think that Andy Cohen... I think you have a point too, brother man. I think Andy Cohen's having dinner with those people and not having to ask them what they wear with a third-rate reality star. Touche, honey. Touche. Are we going to go through the nominees, Chris? Just the top ones. Just the blue chip ones. No, of course not. I don't give a shit. I haven't seen any of these terrible movies. I don't care who wins or loses. I know, but that's why it's funny, Chris. We're not going to do animated features. I don't even think I know anything about the movies. There's the Colin Farrell one where you can't understand anything those guys are saying because they're from Ireland. I could understand it. I mean, did you watch that movie? I'm white. You did not watch that movie. I did watch it. Yeah, I watched it on a Delta flight. I don't even know what it's about. It looks so boring. It's about the complexities and simplicities of male friendship.

In a small Irish village. Okay, so it's like this podcast, but in a small Irish village, next. Yeah, but in that movie, I play Colin Farrell, and you play a fat old guy. But the fat old guy is pretty cool, so I get it. I'm pretty happy that Colin Farrell is kind of back, because I find him pretty charming and talented, so I think it's cool that he's... Not he's like a snow. He rules. He's he's good at all these shows. He's he's, you know, doing his thing. But I don't know the movies. I mean, obviously, the movies are not interesting. Nothing is going to happen. I mean, nothing now because of the slap that people can't stop talking about a year later. We're going to be watching this award show waiting for something to happen, and unfortunately, there's no way it can deliver on that level ever again. Isn't it a shame that that's the pinnacle of the Oscars? This is what, the 90? Yeah, it's like literally 100 years. It's the 95th Academy Awards, and the future generation of the world will be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Casablanca, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Remember that one time that comedian got hit? I mean, it's I mean, Chris Rock has capitalized on it as much as he can. And I think that it should end now. But I think that I bet we're going to have Will Smith, you know, his return arc when he gets nominated for something because nothing Hollywood loves more than forgiveness. We'll kind of reignite this story in a couple of years when he does some overwrought, you know, serious act. Around the corner. Do you think that will happen for fellow comedian Bill Cosby as well? You said Hollywood loves to forgive. Do you think that one's a little abridged too far? Well, I think he's in jail so he can't appear at the award show, which kind of hurts his return arc. No, no. He has a return. He's out. Oh, yeah. He's touring. No, they won't. But it's funny you bring this up because I was listening to another podcast this morning. A friend of the show, Charlamagne Tha God, was saying that...

I guess there's a Michael Jackson musical, and he's like, I'm glad they didn't really touch on the drugs and the kids stuff. I don't believe the kids stuff. Michael Jackson is innocent. I don't give a fuck. I was like, damn, I've never heard anyone say that. Oh, no, I've heard a lot of people say it. I think a lot of people think it, and I've heard a lot of comedians sort of whisper about it. That's fine, but I don't mean on a forum that gets millions of listeners and saying it. matter of factly is all i'm saying with such a yeah in such an earnest way no i agree with that but that's what we love charlamagne the god for yeah that's why there's literally no other redeeming values that he possesses no it's true i mean i was just surprised because i was like i don't think i just don't care about michael jackson's music enough to find it in my heart to fake like he didn't do it you know what i mean so it's fine for me like i'm not putting on michael jackson being like damn this is the best music of all time i need this you you that's only because you did cocaine in the wrong era chris I mean, no, I think Michael Jackson is cool, but it's just kind of like corny wedding music at this point. You think touching them little kids is cool, Chris? I mean, it's unfortunate because it's not his fault that it turned into corny wedding music, but it did. And a lot of great songs do that. And it's no fault of their own. But that's where your head goes when you hear some of those classics. I blame Coast 103.5. Is that a station in L.A.? Yeah, they kind of play some soft R&B hits through the years. Okay. A little Sade, a little Don't Stop Till You Get Enough. A little Don't Stop Till You Get Enough. That really is the one. Yeah, if you're a true DJ, then the real heads will just play the instrumental demo versions of it so you don't have to hear his molestory vocals on it. And you can just appreciate the beautiful harmonies and rhythms created by a longtime sexual abuser. What's his name who made all the music? Phil Spector? No, no, no. Who? Oh, Quincy Jones. Quincy Jones done some dirt. Come on. I don't think Quincy, I mean, I'm sure he has, but I don't think Quincy Jones is known as a, as like a, I don't think he's in that category. Quincy, I just Googled Quincy Jones sexual. And then the first one, Tevin Campbell said that Quincy.

molested him okay i mean okay we need to move on this is not like i don't the fact that you're bringing up tevin campbell in 2023 is enough for me to keep it no but like quincy quincy was a legendary stick man and apparently him and marlon brando like he he has an interview where he's like me and brando would just like fuck anything he said marlon brando would fuck a mailbox if he let him something like that but you know it's one of those it's like not mailbox I'm not condoning this behavior, Chris. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcast. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How Long Gone. It was brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture.

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as your competition, if not more. So head to squarespace.com slash how long for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code how long to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Marlon Brando, what a guy, huh? Apparently you should read their stories about how much food that guy ate. Yeah, no, no, I know the eating. It's like, it's like beyond Elvis level. Oh yeah. People are like his appetite for everything was so. ferocious right that he like would eat till he was like puking and shit it's so crazy he would he would have every every morning he'd have like pancakes and he would use the whole bottle of syrup dude come on on the flapjacks i mean these are just hollywood rumors i don't know what's true and what's not true i'm not of course these hollywood rumors about brando and his flapjack consumption i mean speaking of hollywood chris there's a hollywood duo scene canoodling Your favorite rapper and my favorite singer, Tyga and Avril Lavigne. What do you think about this? I mean, I feel bad for a friend of the show, Modson, who kind of found out, who was engaged to Avril Lavigne and found out that she was dating Tyga from a fucking, while he was on tour, from a picture outside of Nobu in Malibu, which is rough stuff. Is Modson a friend of the show, for real? No, that's a joke. Okay. thank god he's kind of one of those like there's there's such a there's like a handful of these guys now these like travis barker guys that are kind of talking about have worked with travis barker and they kind of become like a new version of that um and he is one of those is my understanding but the tyga avril lavigne thing is absolutely twisted but also i feel like she's kind of unlucky in love okay and can you know she's searching for something and maybe tyga has that thing jason what do you think that thing is big dick lots of money okay that's what i so you think tyga has a hog on him and you think tyga the the bank account looking nice it's it's not speculation he has a confirmed big ass dick for such a little king okay but i the bank account is more of a question to me because i feel like he said i feel like black china's taking him to the fucking cleaners a few times black china will

She'll suck the devil out of that dick, but she will drain the business checking as well. Yeah, I don't think Tyga... I mean, I feel like Tyga, though, is one of those guys that low-key makes money and doesn't have to do that much. Oh, for sure, for sure. I mean, I just... I don't know if he's having to do walkthroughs for 10 bands. But yeah, I forgot about that already. The news cycle moves quickly. Yesterday I went and built with George from the 1975 before they did Saturday Night Live. Oh, wow. And... I was really trying to get into the understanding of how Saturday Night Live works. And he was kind of like, yeah, I showed up thinking I was just going to rehearse. And then I had to do promos. And I was there for nine hours and wasn't super. He said it wasn't. He said he was jet-lagged and the song felt really fast to play on the drums, which I thought was really funny to say about your own song that you've played a million times. He's like, it just felt really fast, man. I'm like, damn, that sucks. Yeah, that's a bummer. I didn't realize they'd played before, but I was like, are you guys doing any skits? And he's like, no, they didn't ask us to do any skits. That's believable. I'm sure there was a small protest for having Mattie Healy on there from a lot of the cast members or writers. Those cast members are so deeply unfunny that they have to protest something to keep themselves. I don't know. I'm sure Bowen Yang slammed a door a couple times last week. I think Bowen's low-key down with it. I think it's other people. Really? I watched the show, actually. I stayed up until midnight because we had gone to Corner Bar for dinner and then ventured into the neighborhood of Williamsburg, Brooklyn for Nomi Fry's star-studded birthday party. Yeah, I saw that on Instagram. I had my internet going nuts. Bro, it was honestly... I haven't been to a house party that was that busy maybe since like...

my early 20s it was truly shoulder to shoulder like sweating in the club walls dripping vibes um in the in the apartment and it was it was honestly we walked in and it was like a byo so it was like if a bunch of jewish guys were in a sierra video i mean no yes i guess i mean it was a mixed crowd obviously but it was the picture for me it was just wall to wall peeps man and you know there was like snacks And it was like BYOB, so there was just booze everywhere. It was just an intense, it was an intense situation. We can only last, you know, 45 minutes or so because it was just too lit. And there was a big debate with myself, David Cho, Alison Roman, and Susan Alexandra about would smoking be allowed indoors? And we were guessing yes, and the answer was no. And after being in the situation, smoking would have made it diabolical. Right, right, right, right. It would have pushed over the edge. It would have gone too far. It was too crazy. It doesn't matter what decade we're in. No, but we ran the numbers and it ain't going to work. Yeah, but John Early was there and he was telling me that he's editing his special right now. And I was... pleased to hear that because i missed it and i would really like to i'm really excited to see it's the only stand-up uh special i've been excited for maybe in my life hopefully did he get bo burnham to direct it too i don't know actually i didn't ask i didn't ask who directed it he said he's editing right now and i was like okay cool cute he was trying to flex he was trying to flex did you see his his merch his shirt design no no was it funny oh my god it's so insane it's basically like um Some type of home fitness equipment, like a very complex Bowflex machine or some type of fitness machine that your mom would order on QVC type of thing. But then he photoshopped his face to be on where you sit. So it's sort of like a sex thing where he gets to eat your ass while you're doing a workout. And his face, he's giving a...

An eager look on his face as well. Just stunning merchandise work. That sounds very good. Yeah, but that is, it was, yeah, it was just wall to wall in a way that, and then Cho, you know, because it was a BYOB situation, we stopped and got some champagne, of course. Cho showed up with four full-size packages of Oreos because that's kind of what he, yeah, that's like what he, I guess that was what he was able to grab. Some people bring flowers. Some people bring orange wine, skin contact, and Cho says four full-size packages of Oreos. Yeah, and they were opened, and they were being eaten. I didn't see anyone but Cho eating them, but I believe that people did. I believe that people truly did. I just wasn't. I think every day we have to show exercises of gratitude that... things like oreo cookies don't have such a stronghold on our psyche and we're able to say no to them because it is an affliction that affects so many strong-minded folks isn't it i don't know where i saw this i can't remember but somebody was saying that they eat oreos with peanut butter you know dab a little pb like to get extra protein i don't think it's a protein i don't think like when they're hiking i don't You're on the 25th mile of the Malibu hike, and you reach into your rucksack and pull out some Oreos and a little thing of peanut butter, just squeeze it on. Squirt a little goo on there, get you through that fourth hill climb. I believe it's more of a taste thing than a protein thing, but I haven't tried that before, but it kind of sounds good, I have to say. It's gilding the lily to me. The Oreo is already a fully formed, perfect food product. Cookies and cream. It's not cookies and cream and there's no room for another comma in there. That's true. Yeah, there's no room for commas. I've said this before. If you combined every color in the rainbow, you just get brown. And the same thing happens in Big Mama's pantry. Yeah, no, that's true. And also, somebody that was at the party last night that I was surprised to see was Busy Phillips was in the building. Sure, sure. Which I didn't know what the connection was. But then there was also a moment where...

some gray-haired Brooklyn cat walked to the door, and a gaggle of ladies thought it was HBO's own unfunny Nathan Fielder. And when you said a gray-haired Brooklyn cat at Nomi Fry's party, that could have easily been an actual cat. No, no, it was not a feline. It was a human man. And I... Susan was like, is that Nathan Fielder? I'm like, yeah, sure. I didn't really take it. Man, I mean, all the people at Nomi Fry's birthday party, if Nathan, for you, were to show up to that, that's like if Emily Ratajkowski does a lap dance at your bachelor party for female writers. You know what I mean? It doesn't get no better than that. If Emily Ratajkowski goes Ja Morant mode in the fucking champagne room. Bingo. I mean, I... I think that, yeah, I mean, I think that would have been a coup for sure. But it was, unfortunately, after further review in the sea of people, it was not Nathan For You. Well, I kind of should have realized this because the guy's hair was actually cut. Whereas Nathan For You constantly... Like, every time I see Nathan for you, he needs a haircut. It's crazy. Every single time. He's giving shag me. I don't really get it. I don't know if that's his look or if he's just like... Big Nate knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. Do you think so? Or do you think he's... I think he's just insane and doesn't get haircuts unless it's, like, on set. His autistic little dick stays wet as a motherfucker. Don't worry about him. Well, sure. But it has nothing to do with his hair. Like, he would be doing his thing because he's famous, Jason. It doesn't... His haircut... I think he's like... People can look past that. You know, it's like... you got a good thing going you're like the coach of a team that just keeps winning every year you're like all right sure all i have to do is not change anything and this party train will keep on rolling he's like i'm just going to be up in this tree with my binoculars looking and stuff and if people are still cool with it after all these years i don't want to jinx anything and change my hair up that's true yeah yeah yeah no i'm not suggesting he just for men his beautiful gray head but i just i just mean that the

The sides could be a little higher and tighter. That's all I'm saying. I also saw yesterday, I saw... Take note, Nathan. When I was with George, Flea was in the hotel lobby as well. Blood sugar sex magics, Flea? I gotta say, bro, Flea, the guy's aging in reverse. He looks amazing. I was stunned. Oh, yeah. I was stunned. And he's got the pink hair, and he's wearing crazy clothes. And he's with his ex-wife, Frankie Raider, who's the legendary model. And they just both looked amazing. He was just glowing. He's like a short Diplo. He's going to be living in Malibu. He's going to be bleaching his asshole. He doesn't have to do anything except just like, what are we going to do? We're just going to wake up, go hiking, slap the fucking bass, eat chia seeds, pudding, and then just vibe. I'm going to listen to jazz. I was really impressed with the whole thing. I didn't realize he looked that good. So you're saying Flea was really in his bag? Flea was really in his bag, yeah. Fucking idiot. Like young MA style. But yeah, that was, yeah, anyway, Nomi's birthday was, it was a heavy room, as they say, but it was tough for me because I was wearing a cashmere sweater with a blazer over it, and I was just really overheating from the second I walked in. So this was like a Sierra video, sweat dripping all over your body. No, seriously, I was so warm. I was so warm, and at a certain point, I just can't, once I'm uncomfortable. I kind of got to go. You know, I just can't. I can't take it anymore. Whereas other people were like, I'm just getting uncomfortable. I can't take it anymore. Maybe I should shed a layer. And you're like, I'm going to call my Uber XL Black. Speaking of the Uber XL Black, huge development here. It was the all new, like the 2023. suburban and we get in the back those headlights are looking sharp aren't they i was like jason would love this and opens up the console between the two captain's chairs it's a fridge built in damn like a cut alex is that a dig of me being fat or something why would i love a fridge so much no just because there was beverages and like you know it's just cool it's just it was cool you can keep your you can kind of keep your caviar service back there i'm projecting i take it back have it on the go my therapist is out of town this week i'm smiling

are you good how was the um we didn't totally not we didn't talk about the the thursday night yeah you went to a star-studded event in uh where is that well you said williamsburg That sounds cool. Right over the bridge. I was smelling Donatella Versace's hair. I saw the picture of you in Donatella Versace that I'm very glad that you're able to get, but I don't think you were actually close enough to smell her hair, so I don't know if that's going to... Her hair doesn't have any scent to it. It looks like security forced you to keep a COVID-like distance from her. Security wasn't super hyped on my presence in general. Super hyped. They weren't loving me. I don't blame them. I don't blame them. But, yeah, thanks to our friends over at Neiman Marcus, Mary Kate. You're a rock star. But, yeah, we got the invite to go bust it wide open with Donatella. She was a sweetheart. Her face almost moved when I talked to her. First of all, she didn't say a word to you. You did get the photo. Of course. No, I mean, when I said her face almost moved when I asked her a question, that was her giving all that she felt I deserved. Okay, I see what you mean. And it takes a little more than the average. More effort than you would realize for her to move her face, you know? No, that's true. That's true. And also, I was wearing that Our Legacy sweater. Shout out to Heat for hooking us up. That's right. And it was like, I got that sweater. I'm like, oh, this thing is just heavy and itchy. And it just made me feel uncomfortable. And then I tried it on. and carolyn was like wear it it looks great you gotta do it i'm like and then i got so many compliments on i'm still getting compliments on it so for those for those at home i ate a slice of humble pie for those at home it's an our legacy sweater that is great and looks great on jason and i also encouraged him and sometimes jason fashion fashion is pain and you're learning that the hard way and then having to go to the ysl party which was indoor outdoor walking the grass in my tabbies fuck me i saw

I saw a picture today on Twitter of somebody that got their tabbies resold, and the cobbler put a regular sole on it, so it fucked up the split toe. Here's your problem. Your fucking toe's all split. That's really funny. But the YSL party was this glitzy and glamour? Was it the Hollywood night that you needed? Well, first of all, let's beat back the truck up. After building with Big D... we bopped over to the grill on the alley where I got to ask the maitre d' to confirm if your hammer story was correct. And what did he say? And he was like, damn, no one's ever asked me for a hammer before. And he was very much like, he felt as if that whole interaction was like a fever dream to him. Because he was like... some fucking white guy came in and asked me for a hammer and i was like by golly i do have a hammer here you go and he he said like the next day he's like did that even really happen like what was it but we had a good laugh we're gonna go back soon i ordered the the the chicken pot pie oh we is it isn't that one of the problem isn't that the chicken pot pie is a motherfucking problem squat it's a problem is it isn't that like one of the kind of hits there that we've never Oh, yeah. Okay. It's like getting spinach and artichoke at Cheesecake Factory, you know. It's a must. It's a legacy hero tentpole item on their menu. I'm glad that you explored that. Fuck me all the way up, boy. I'm glad you explored that. That seems like a, is it a large portion, and did it make you feel cuddly, kind of? Like, did it make you feel warm and fuzzy? It's large. I couldn't even finish half of it. Wow, really? I mean, you know, a chicken pot pie is fucked up. Yeah, it is pretty fucked up. true like on the on the scale of fucked up ass fat motherfucker food it's pretty high out there let me say something chicken pot pie is fucked up yeah french people look at that shit and they're like god damn bro yo you are you good are you good yeah how do you say are you good in french i don't i don't have that i don't have my duolingo open right um but yeah so um yeah thursday

Bopped over to Bodie. Thank you for the invite, Bodie. That was nice to you. Had some bubbles with Jeff Hendrickson and got to build with Scout Willis as well. Met her BF. We talked about being tall and skinny and the pains and troubles that brings us in life. Wow. What else happened? Yeah. Tall, skinny, and white. It's tough. Dating rich hoes. It ain't easy out here, bro. Any whoozle. Are you good? Are you drunk right now? Are you stoned in the morning? No, I'm not stoned. I'm not drunk. I did a juice cleanse yesterday, so I'm mentally clear. But on Sunday episodes, people want a little more funny. I try to deliver on the one-on-one episodes something a little more silly and funny and a little too hot for TV. You know what I mean? Yeah. Can you handle it? Yeah, I'm handling it. I'm good. Yeah, I'm handling it. I have a MacBook with Ableton, and if it don't work out, it'll get edited. No, that's true. But yeah, after Bodhi and some bubbles, went over to YSL party. Didn't get to see Feist. That was only for the famous people. It was a beautiful outdoor party, a rare event where the hors d'oeuvres were all delicious. Wait, you were eating the past hors d'oeuvres? Well, Wagyu sliders in a YSL hamburger box, which is a thing. Luxury brands, we need to stop doing this, guys. Yeah, that's literally what I was going to say. I was going to say, like, all right, the hamburger French fry martini culture that has been co-opted by luxury fashion. We got to stop. Well, the martini thing is fine. That seems timeless and it's sort of flying above that. Sure, but it all plays into each other. What is the next thing? I don't think they'd all play to each other. I think that martinis have just always been around. I think you're correlating the two because of Sunset Tower menus. I think that what they're trying to do is like...

a play on the irony of the juxtaposition of a high-end luxury brand with a french fries yes i'm clear on what they're trying to do i'm clear on what they're i don't know i'm not i'm not stupid i just think that it's it's like the After you've seen it done 10 times by 10 different brands, it's like, all right, guys, what's next? It's almost as if all these brands keep hiring the same agencies of boring dudes who listen to this podcast to do all this shit. You wish. This is in-house. These people are... This is in-house. people being paid a lot less than they should be to crank out these ideas and that's why french fries in a box keep coming up i mean to be fair french fries are kind of a classic hit but i guess the custom box is what we're talking about a finger food it is not you need two hands maybe three if you need ketchup and a and a champagne flute but shout outs to margo at ysl for the invite double shout outs to her boyfriend for telling her that She needs to invite us to the party. So Margo herself isn't a big fan, but she was told to do that. It would be good for her. No, I mean, I don't know if she was a big fan, but she was basically just like, you know, my boyfriend was like, you should invite these guys to the party, and I did. Was the boyfriend there? I don't think so, no. Damn, he didn't even get invited? That's fucked up. I mean, you know, I'm sure they're looking at the Excel spreadsheet, and they're like, all right. Margot's boyfriend, Ron, or Jennifer Coolidge? What are we going to do here? Let's take 20 and figure it out. That's why I'm excited about this award season to be over, is there's a Pedro Pascal and Jennifer Coolidge I don't ever want to see again. I need a full year break on both of them. Coolidge needs to go back into album mode. She's being trotted around Hollywood a little too much, and she knows it. She knows it. You know it. I know it. We all know it. she knows our friend jeff was talking he's like yeah i went up to her and i was like what do you even say to her you're just like hey like congrats on all of your success this year like awesome to see that happening and she's just kind of like yep you're the 9 000th person to tell me that this hour yeah

I mean, of course it never gets old to do that, but I guess at some point it does get old. When you've been an actor, I mean, she's also been like a working actress for so long, like successfully. You know what I mean? Obviously not this level of fame, but like as a character actor, she's been very successful. So I'm sure it's like... She's been beasting in the underground for decades. For decades. But yeah, I mean, we got to take a break. And Pedro Pascal... Legally Blonde? the list goes on pedro pascal is at least like very good looking but when you put him in ugly clothes it like doesn't help like i don't know he's not seth rogan like put a t-shirt on that fucking guy he's a he's good to go yeah put a regular suit on he needs and he needs a new pr person who's who needs to sort of extinguish the zaddy narrative because it's gonna the zaddy snake is gonna eat itself at some point where that's all he is now it's like i'm not even an actor anymore i'm just like a hunky guy who's 50 years old and i and like 23 year old social media people like point me in a direction and tell me to do stuff and like that is very good to know i am zaddy you know like there's nothing there i mean i think he i've never seen him anything i think he's a pretty good actor people seem to like him um and i think he's got the chops but like i just don't need another This thing where we put crazy clothes on actors and expect everyone has to like it and be like, yes, king. I just don't. Sometimes stuff doesn't look good. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay to not slay. Dressed like a banana. That's what I mean. Yeah, it's like, dude, you can just put on... Like, the stuff they're doing to Andrew Garfield is crazy this awards season. And I know why. And, like, it's the stylist and it works for fucking Harry Styles. It does not work for Andrew Garfield. Like, Andrew Garfield is a good-looking, regular, straight actor. Put him in a nice suit, Austin Butler style, and let him do that. Like, he does not need to experiment. I don't want to see him midriff. I don't... That's not... It's not going to work. Okay, so Garfield pulls up...

out of the escalate in the line and Lil Nas X is like damn bro you need to chill with your looks you need to bring it down a couple clicks here chief damn bro why you got that big ass flower on your shoulder that shit that's gonna hit your ear you know what I mean like why are you doing that Garfield holds up his hand to the camera and he just wrote please kill me on on the inside of his palm as he's being Held captive by his Scientological overlords. But I think this really is the thing. I think these male actors specifically feel the pressure to do this because this is the only way to get press now. It's the easiest way to get press. It's not the only way. I mean, tell me another way right now for a male actor. If you're in the conversation because the performance has gotten you here, there's no other way. Unless you spit on your co-star or get arrested. I don't know what else you can do besides wear really ugly clothes and have people say you're daddy. It's so crazy. It's like, why can't you just look? Why can't you just dress? I don't understand. You can just look good. There's no reason to try to push the envelope. That's not your job. To me, I always believe I come from a generation where being zaddy, part of being zaddy means that you never... acknowledge that you are zaddy like brad pitt is never going to be paraded out like that you know what i mean so you're saying being a being yeah being a real zaddy is not ever acknowledging that you're zaddy you can't just one that's one chapter in the book of zaddy like it's sort of 101 like as soon as you're like well i guess i am kind of slaying and giving zaddy um yes you know like as soon as you do that my penis goes it's just not i don't know it's like you had you just have to kind of blush and smile and giggle and say thank you and and that's it you know just being normal they're leading they're leaning in to the point where it becomes it becomes exhausting and it's it's the stylist's fault i mean the stylists are like they want the everybody wants the moment which i understand because it obviously gets press it you know in some ways probably there's financial benefits to it as well but it's also like bro you're gonna look back on this and be like damn i look fucking crazy

I looked fucking crazy. I broke the internet and it took forever to clean it up. Imagine winning an Oscar and having to look back on that for the rest of your career. That's like the famous photo of you in some awful outfit. My life's work all built into this and I'm wearing this purple and peach Valentino mesh tank top tuxedo. It's just crazy. Exactly. And you're up there and you're like... Couldn't have done it without my A, with my cinematography team, my B team over in the editing suite for. Yeah, dude. Fucking bullshit. No, honestly. The idea of thanking your director for his and writing team in like the chain mail, you know, in like a chain mail midriff with heel. It just doesn't. I don't know who it's for besides the internet. This is all for Instagram, and then where does it go? You know what I mean? You just have to throw it away, Marie Kondo style. This look does not spark joy. For some reason, though, with musicians, I guess I'm just conditioned to accept it more because they perform as themselves. You know what I mean? So it's like Bowie, Mick Jagger. There's a lot of history of it. But when you're an actor, I don't really know that much about you because that's the whole point. You embody these characters and do these things. And I think I have, in my mind, I have like a... idea of who you are and then i i don't think who you are is a fashion trendsetter that's the that's the thing no that's the thing no they're not a fashion like with a musician it's like i've you know i grew up listening to dolly parton and i dreamed about being on the stage here and this is my whole and with actors it's like um i'm a full sociopath and if i don't do this i'll be in jail for cannibalism so that's why i'm here um and my body also looks good yeah so put on a put on a nice you know black or navy suit you know just you can just look good and normal there's no reason to try to be your own david bowie when you're in a movie about like

being friends in ireland like you're saying it's like this isn't like you didn't play yeah like but colin will never do that colin's a class class no i mean i was using that as an example but yeah colin looks good colin wears a suit like he knows he looks good it's pretty simple he's not pushing it too far i think austin butler is the best example because he like He doesn't hit it every time, but he's like been in this. He kind of found a look for this award season. I'm sure his team helped him put it together. And he looks pretty good almost every time I see him because he's not trying to be crazy. There's nothing crazy, but it's also not boring. It's also not boring, which is a hard line to from a chef's perspective. When you have. A quality ingredient, the more things you do to it, the worse it's going to get. No, that's true. That's why TJ says no soy sauce. I'm glad you brought it back to the culinary arts because that's something that I can understand. Obviously, it's a great parallel to make. And speaking of sushi, I wrote down something. It's more of an aside, but something that we can build off of a character. I don't know, but let me know how this feels. I think it's a character. It's the name of an Asian drag queen. You ready for it? Mm-hmm. Miso Messi. Dude. And this is one of the messiest drag queens around. Okay, so... What do you think? Not bad. I mean, not bad. I mean, I've heard worse. And I think that the... I mean, how long ago did this hit you? Like, how long have you been marinating? It's been fermenting for... three days now probably and how do you and you still feel confident about it well i just wanted to sort of put it out into the universe and then okay you know like a message in a bottle and then i'm sure in a few years i'll get the lion's gate call like we're ready to turn this thing you know this this is kind of the basis for the show we've got chris katan on board to play me so messy I mean, I think that, I mean, look, the drag community. Bo and Yang, if you're listening. The drag community need their support right now. They're getting killed by these bozos. So it's, you know, I mean. I know. It's honestly insane to me that, like, someone would protest a drag show, which is truly, and I've only been to, you know, a few in my life, but it truly is a joyous event.

There's nothing more pure to me than a drag event. Everybody's there to have fun and get fucked up, and there's just no ill will, whereas most other forms of entertainment where you gather, there's something sinister going on. Hyper-religious people are unable to enjoy themselves in a scenario like that where people... truly are all welcome and everyone is a good mood yeah that's true and it also it's like hey we're all adults here we kind of police ourselves and respect each other and like if there's an element that's not working we'll take care of it versus just like i don't like this i don't get it i'm gonna pull out the ar well i think the thing is i think that the the popularity of of the tv of rupaul's drag race has like exposed real normie ass freaks to drag culture and that that is like a gift and a curse because it's normalized they're like i'm never subscribed i'm gonna cancel my subscription to the tlc network i thought this was about learning i don't learning about the good book i don't want to learn about me so messy that's not for me i don't want to learn about that see man if i was at a drag show and someone's like hey guys i'm me so messy and take my money i'm flapping my Flapping my fan with a vengeance. No, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. More Hollywood news here. I got an invite yesterday from our friends at Lionsgate. It's a movie screening for the new John Wick film. Wick 4. John Wick. John Wick number one. Great movie. And every other sequel. Full dog shit. No pun intended on the dog shit line because this screening is a doggy and owner screening where you are not only allowed to but encouraged to bring your dogs to go sit in a dark movie theater for two hours and just smell piss and shit okay so you mentioned nightmare you mentioned this to me and i was obviously disgusted and offended um but but why like

is this is wick four is it like a dog plot or something like why well so so basically the whole the the very first john wick the whole thing is like basically these bad guys like kidnap his dog or hurt his dog somewhat somehow okay and then the whole reason to justify this blood sport vengeance like killing spree is because bad guy took the doggy And doggies are better than humans now in 2023. So it's sort of like justice porn for people who like doggies and think that Keanu's hot. Where is this event going to take place? I think it's a... uh noi house so you're so you're saying that you can bring okay so this isn't like an outdoor thing the idea is you can bring dogs inside inside a movie theater at a member's inside a movie theater at a member's club to watch wick for what like what like are there like are they making special treats that like look like bombs or something like i don't understand well i mean i'm sure whoever decided to come up with this idea is listening to this podcast right now and i'm sorry but i mean i think the problem with the wick is that They rely heavily on it being a dog murder revenge film. And a lot of movies rely on this trope as a way to justify the violence in our overly sensitive world that we live in. We can't just watch a movie where people kill bad guys. Killing a human is not good enough to make me want to kill them. You have to kill the doggy, which really gets my blood boiling. It's just because the only reason why we're making a John Wick 4 is because of dog lovers, you know? The movie's already been fucked out. There's no more fucking... come left in this dong so are you going to go are you going to take dogs or are you just going to go and get some kind of free therapy by petting other dogs i ain't going bro i mean i saw john wick one in the theater i was like okay this is lit a lot of a lot of murder it's cool looks sick you saw you saw john wick one in a theater john wick one was good and you know a proper action movie you want to see it in the theater

You want to feel the bass like Bergheim? No, of course, yeah. I want to hear those gunshots. I want them to stick with me in my dreams. I want them to be very realistic. No, I guess that's fine. I'll say one thing about New York that is refreshing is the dogs are not as prevalent, man. They're just not around in the same way. You guys don't have yards. I still love to see people that think they're cool picking up shit off the street and trying to play that off as if it's like you're wearing a plastic bag as a glove. as you walk down Christie Street. And there's nothing that makes me feel more superior than knowing that I've never picked dog shit up off the ground. And that is something I will die with happily. And I think it's one of the most demeaning things we can do in society. I really do. I'm going to make you pick up shit one day, Chris. Just watch. I'm going to put it on my TikTok. For a certain amount of money, I guess I would do anything. But I mean, you know, we can discuss it. We got to do a cameo. We'll do a cameo. It's 10 bands and Chris will pick up one of my dog shits. for 10 bands like bj novak will be like yeah i'll drop 10 to see that you know what i mean i you know i was with when i was with maddie last week in chicago he was saying his he does um he does cameos he's getting 300 large per cameo damn that's pretty good it's not bad that's pretty good to be like happy birthday no he's got to do a lot more than happy birthday I think I mean, I've got to really deliver. I think some people I mean, I'm sure he over delivers because that's the kind of guy that he is. But, you know, I've gotten people expect a lot from him. That's all. That's true. I mean, I've gotten a few cameos as gifts and received and given. And usually people over deliver. I will say that they're usually like better, better than you think they're going to be. Me picking up dog shit to launch a How Long Gone TikTok does feel like something that would do well for us. Because my idea that I was workshopping is me approaching.

guys in equinox and offering them a hundred dollars cash to take off their beanie while they're working out indoors yeah which i think is a good idea but i also think that could unfortunately incite some violence towards me um because the kind of guy that's wearing a beanie at the gym is usually pretty buff and like it says something about their psyche i think or mark maron or or they're you know i think a lot of guys try to do it as like i have to keep my hair out of my face damn wait till these motherfuckers hear about hats It's going to really fuck him up. Yeah, let me tell you, bro. There's another thing you can cover your head with. It's a lot more normal at the gym. Speaking of, did you see there's a tweet? I forgot who wrote it, but like, OMG, some guy just offered me $100,000 to suck his dick on the plane. Yeah, this whole thing. I mean, we've been talking about this guy a lot. This guy who invented the mouse is offering people. The computer device, not the animal. Yeah, he's offering people $10,000 to take their masks off on a flight and no one does it. And it's partly because I think he's actually asking them, but I think it's like they don't know if this guy actually has bread because he just looks like some kind of like dad, you know. There's no reason to think this guy has bread. He just looks like a guy who. Chris Wallace is about to tell him to sit down on a kitchen island stool. We need to talk. So I don't think people believe he has the bread, and that's the real issue. But I think if I were to try this at Equinox, I would have the $100 bill out. Yeah, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing. If I have a $100 bill out and I'm like, take it off, they're going to take it off. There's no way somebody's saying that in my... Yeah, and that's a slippery slope because you're kind of two clicks away from... asking somebody if you can go take a tour of their apartment on tiktok you know what i mean i'm not willing to i'm not willing to die for it but if i got punched in the face i think i'd make a lot of people happy of course so it might deliver you know it might deliver in a few different ways but yeah who who would be sitting on an airplane in first class and some fucking creepy ass dude is like

and then you have to like take your headphones off and be like oh is there i don't think he's necessarily creepy he literally looks like a businessman he just looks a regular ass guy i mean he he looks like maybe i've seen too many like hulu documentaries about people who like uh manipulate the minds of teens or something like that but he does have he looks like he has a little dark side to him just a wee bit i i and i don't want to slander his good mousy name but i mean he's i mean he's definitely got a dark side to him he's offering people money to take off their masks just because he thinks they're that they're stupid but let's let's say that he's just a regular looking guy like if you're sitting on a plane in first class on delta and a guy's like i'll give you 10 and you're just like what do you like Why are you talking to me? What's going on here? No, if you take off your mask, I'll give you $10,000. I don't have it on me now, but at the end of this flight, you and me will go to an ATM. We'll go to my bank. We'll go to SVB bank, and then I'll deposit, I mean, sorry, withdrawal. It's clunky. I'm just trying to watch everything all at once. No, it's clunky. It's clunky. I'm saying it's all bullshit. I don't think it's bullshit. I think it's clunky because I think he has the money and I think he would actually pay someone because $10,000 is nothing to him and I think the engagement he would receive on Twitter would really get him off. So I do think he's good for it. I think the premise is too clunky and getting the money, unless you have a sack of cash. You can't Venmo that. There's a limit. You've got to have the cash. There's a limit. And no one wants an on-the-record wire transfer for taking off their money. This is kind of like a tax dodging. Yeah, I don't want Uncle Sam to see about any of this stuff. Okay, we'll try this scenario on for size. We have some type of tech gold digger that kind of starts figuring out. Where this guy's flying to and from. Why does he keep going to Dallas on Wednesday mornings? Whatever it is. He's got a standing meeting. You make an investment into your future. You buy a first class ticket. You drop 2700 on it. And then you just kind of wiggle around. You put your mask on and you sit next to this guy. And you try to kind of bait.

him into offering you this i like this and then you're just making money i like you're making 10 10 large every week i like this idea i would even double mass see if i can get him up to 20 you know like see see see see what the see what this guy's really fucking about yeah i mean i'll start at 20 i'll go down to 17.5 yeah exactly yeah this is just a classic negotiation there's nothing different here i think that's it i think that's a good idea i'll start tracking his his flight patterns and then we're gonna hop on and maybe maybe we could kind of be on either side of him You know what I mean? Right. And not share that, you know, pretend we don't know each other. This is good stuff. It's like when we go to the craps table, you bet on black, I bet on red. Yeah. One of us is going to win. I'm thinking it's more like we're the new Claremont twins and we're taking your Rolex while you sleep. You know what I mean? That's what I'm feeling like. We're going to do a Jennifer Lopez style drugging and robbery of Mr. Mouse Man. That's what I'm feeling. But this has been a big, it's been a big. thing this week, this discussion about this, but I think that it's... I think it really is the premise is too clunky and that's why he's failing. He's not thinking it through from a top-down perspective. The whole thing's clunky. I think we're going to need a rewrite. We're going to need a motherfucking... Come back next year. We need a motherfucking rewrite. All right, TJ. And yeah, prayers up to all our founders with the SVB bank situation. I don't feel sorry for you at all. And thank you to our friends at Bank of America for kind of holding us down for all these years. We see you in this kind of moment of clarity. We see you, Bank of America, and we love you and your FDIC-insured policies. The fact that Silicon Valley Bank also sounds fake, like it sounds fake. It doesn't sound like a real bank. I guess Bank of America doesn't either, but it's like... That too needs a rewrite. But I always thought... you know, City National is the bank that has been billed to me as the, like, I got bread bank. It's like JP Morgan for...

Personal checking account. There's no, well, there's just no, you know, there's no ATMs. It's like, they cover the fees anywhere. It's like, it was always built to me as kind of, so this, this Silicon Valley bank, I obviously wasn't aware of because I don't buy trendy olive oils or, you know, new, new, um, mushroom gummies or anything that they're paying for. So I'm just a little, I'm not sad to see it, but, but I think that like, I'm watching these people that there was like a crazy tweet this morning. There was like 15 fucking tweet thread. by this woman talking about how this is affecting her family and her business. And then you, you look at what her business is and it's like a $600 a month app that lets you like schedule things, you know, it's just, it's just, it's just like, I think, I think that the reckoning of like the, the, reality of that we don't need anything, any of this stuff that people got all this money for, almost all of it we don't need. And I think that this is just another kind of domino in that kind of thinking. The stuff that we don't need, I think that really hits at home. I mean, it's not that the stuff isn't cool or sometimes useful, etc., but we don't need it. No, they're cool and useful. We don't need it at all. I don't need any of this stuff. So I think it's an interesting thing to watch these people. I mean, people are like dunking, like, yeah, all those fucking guys invest in all birds. And it's like, relax. Like, that's not what it's about. It's more about like, does this mean that I will be free from millennial graphic design kind of redoing products that we already have and are fine? Is that? Because that's a world I want to live in. I don't know about you, Jesse. We want to make sure that these in-house and freelance graphic designers are unable to pay their mortgage this month. That is sort of our key hero goal. No, we still need a lot of design. I just don't need a $30 box of dates that looks like a fucking Nike commercial. I just don't. Yeah, if you need a...

You know, scrape a couple pennies together, make rent this month. You got a brand new M2 MacBook Pro. I'm in the market. I don't want to go refurb. We can talk deals. Okay. So if we're liquidating any stuff. If the SVB bank closure affected you and your career and you need to unload some tech. stuff yeah hit jason direct he's willing to make a deal kind of off the record um so that your employer doesn't know as long as you wipe the machine we'll be fine it's basically a write-off for you everything's basically a write-off yeah my new macbook pro is uh is a tax haven is the i didn't know you were in the market for a new computer i thought you just got one no mine's mine's a couple years old but honestly the the fact that it doesn't have like like ports on it like usb ports and And, like, SD card slots and everything like that. It just kills me every time to, like, pull out the dongle every fucking day. Fuck dongles, bro. That's the worst. All right. How long gone? Fuck dongles. Thank you for listening. I don't want a dongle no more. Thank you for listening to our podcast. Happy birthday, Nomi. Actually, Nomi, for her birthday, is taking me to see John Mayer solo at MSG on Wednesday. So expect a full report from that later this week. damn bro mayor selling out msg to play him an acoustic guitar i want to see the pnl on this shit that's i mean that is the profit i can't even it makes me sick how good it is hopefully you're taking nomi out to a nice dinner before to thank her that's that's funny i actually am yes the reservation is made we're all set to go so it's going to be it's going to be as as nomi says a big night you know it's going to be it's going to be what a night you and johnny what a night Could you imagine if Chris Black and I went to go see John Mayer live acoustic at the garden all of a sudden? Could you imagine? Can you imagine all of a sudden? What if all of a sudden Chris Black and I went to see John Mayer play solo acoustic at Madison Square Garden? I have a reservation 745 on the block. Oh, shit. Right this way, sir. Well, have you ever dined at Miso Messi before? It's a hand-rolls concept. Miso Messi could be a great hand-rolls concept or a drag race contestant. I just think that now that we've got it out there and you own that, I think that the licensing opportunities... It's a West Hollywood ramen. Yeah. Izakaya. The opportunities are truly endless, is what I would say. If any developers, founders out there...

Whose money is accessible and you want to get out on the runway with me? I'm cleared for takeoff. All right. Well, thank you for listening to How Long Gone. It's another beautiful Sunday. Let's go enjoy it, Jason. We'll talk to you guys next week with more podcasts. And good luck to all the nominees tonight. Yeah, good luck to all the nominees tonight. And good luck to all the fellas. And let's hope you put on a regular suit and just look nice. Avril, come on the pod. I want to see how long it is. Soft and hard.