029. - Chris Black & Jason Stewart

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What's up? Hey, bud. What's going on there, eh? Hey, bud. You enjoying your last days of Canadian citizenship, I can tell. I mean, the sun is shining. It's actually beautiful today. As, you know, beautiful for Canada. That's true. Just kidding. Canada is probably more beautiful than America. But at what cost? Good point. I mean, at what cost exactly? There's nobody storming government buildings with guns, but there's other costs, I think. That stuff is still so crazy to me. What do you even do about it? Well, nothing, Jason, because in this country, well, in your country, we right to bear arms above all. Yeah, if you are white. Yeah, and dumb as hell. But, I mean, the only real solution that I've heard people, a.k.a. comedians, talk about are just, like, every black person should exercise their right to do the same, and they will change the gun laws in 24 hours. That's what Charlemagne the God controversially said that recently. Oh, really? Like, all black people, go arm yourself. After the Ahmaud Arbery, he's like, go arm yourself. Like, fuck it. I don't really know why that's that controversial. I guess because he's considered a leader in the community. I consider him a hack radio host, but he does have a far-reaching voice. He does. I think it's something that would actually work, but it's also a very insane, scary, crazy thing to do. Yeah, I mean, there's just too many guns, bro. What are we going to do? This whole episode is dedicated to eradicating gun violence in this world. You know, Jason, I've been doing a lot of studying in the last two days since you heard from us. We're going to put on a pot of coffee and kind of figure this thing out once and for all. It's time. It's time for us to take a deep, deep look at this country and where the cracks are. Well, this is going to be... We've decided to schedule one episode a week where it's just the girls having a...

having banter a little kiki with tj tj's kiki hour where where we just kick it up and what what are we going to talk about we don't know and uh you know we we were doing so many episodes every week it's good to get a little breathing room check in on how we're doing it's not always about the guests because we are the stars after all that is a good point i i just want to be clear I mean, we could deliver a fucking top-tier guest three times a week, no problem. It's more that Jason and I love to talk to each other without the interruption of a third party. That's right. And the same way that some people love to listen to our podcasts without the interruption of the hosts sometimes. Yeah, I've been hearing some feedback. You guys talk too much. Bitch, we're the hosts of the show. Our job is to talk. That's the whole point. Yeah, it is a conversation, not an interview show. So, you know, we are going to inject ourselves in that conversation. And if you don't like it, you can go listen to frickin' Joe Holder on Marc Maron or something. Damn, Marc Maron, dude, that shit's crazy what happened to him this week. Well, not as crazy as what happened to the person that died, but yeah. No, no, I'm just saying it's like I had no idea he was connected to that at all. Yeah, he's always kind of secretive about who he's in relationships with. If somebody listening doesn't know, he was in a relationship with his partner for a year or two, and she was in the biz, like a movie producer, and she passed away a few days ago out of nowhere. She was a director. She did Glow. I think they've known each other for a long time, but she's like a mumblecore Joe Swanberg scene, but she directed pretty big TV. Not crazy shit, but cool stuff. Yeah. I think she worked with Eddie Wong and some other people. Oh, yeah, she did. She directed Fresh Off the Boat. I think she directed a pilot, actually, not to get too Hollywood. Okay.

But no, that story is just crazy. I think when anybody dies during the shit, it's not from Corona. It's almost shocking. It is, but people, if they're not old, I mean, she's 54 years old. So it's like, it's, it's shocking. That's part of the reason, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's weird when those things happen to, you know, she's, she's a, a person who died who was famous in her own right. But because she was in a relationship with Mark Maron. It's just kind of all about Marc Maron because it's going to be like who and what is he going to say about this? Like he has to do an episode about it and everyone is going to hate and love listening to it. It's going to be this crazy cathartic thing, which is, I don't know, I guess dating that type of podcaster or personality person is like, oh, I can't wait till blah, blah, blahs. husband or wife dies because it's going to be a sick ass New Yorker piece, you know? I mean, I, I find it's, it's weird. I, I, he's so insufferable and just impossible to like at this point. But I feel like the, the, when he gets, when he gets, I feel, I feel like actually when he speaks on something like this, that's more personal, it actually is good because he's not being a fucking dumb ass. And it's like, it's impossible not to be pretty authentic because you're just so shell shocked, you know? But I do think that it takes away from the actual act to act of what happened because he's famous and he talks about it. Someone could argue that you're also maybe describing yourself or myself, Chris. The pain of being a podcaster. If I was rich, you could call me that all the time. Until I'm rich, keep it to yourself. Okay, you can unsubscribe. I've been telling people to unsubscribe. Anybody who comes at me on Twitter, just unfollow me, dude. Leave me alone. I don't care. If you don't like the podcast, then don't listen to it. Unsubscribe. We're good. You can tell that Chris is turning into a real celebrity now where he's lamenting all of these issues of like, hey, bro. Hey, bro, you don't like my shit? Just hit unfollow, dog. My haters make me stronger. I mean, my haters don't make me stronger. I just don't understand.

If I consume something I don't like, it's because I went and searched it out knowing I'm not going to like it. I don't actively subscribe to something I don't like to get enraged. That doesn't make sense to me. A lot of people do stuff like that. A lot of people hate watch or hate listen. I was listening to a podcast earlier today with Patton Oswalt. They were talking about how the people who speak negatively about... things with such accuracy um they really it's coming from a place of them actually loving something and the only reason why they know these sort of intricate specific details about something is because they they love it despite hating it at the same time and they just kind of can't quit it so maybe that's how people feel about you chris i mean look it's very possible i mean i do give i do give a lot so Yeah, and you know, the brand that you've created has sort of almost teed yourself up to receive this type of feedback, you know? Oh, well, of course. I mean, I think whenever you're releasing smoke, the smoke will blow back. I mean, you know, it's like if you're Howard Stern, you have to get used to the fact that you walk down the street and a construction worker is going to be like, hey, Howard, suck my freaking dick. And you're going to be like, oh, he likes it when I say that. People think that you are going to like it when they make fun of your taste in hemlines or ascots or whatever. I don't not like it. It's just usually people aren't very clever. That's the issue. People just aren't good enough at it. Well, that's why they're in the sidelines. That's right. That's why in the words of... I believe Diplo and Chris Brown, if I'm not mistaken. I see you hating outside the club because you can't even get in. Great intro to a great song from a great recording artist. Diplo did his thing on that, but we all know who carried the weight. Diplo did his little thing on that. He did his little thing on it. Whatever it is that Diplo does to a Chris Brown song. That is honestly a fucking classic.

Yeah, I know. And add it to the list. Add it to the impossibly long list of Breezy Bops. Breezy Bops Volume 2 coming out soon on Mixcloud slash Them Jeans. What if your turn to DJing was a Chris Brown mixtape? That's actually a good idea. That's so funny. Yeah, you want to shake things up? I only do Chris Brown mixtapes now. What is Diplo doing? What is this thing he's doing? Is it on Twitch? He's doing, yeah, I think he's on Twitch. And I have not seen it, but people have told me about what he does. And he'll have shows where he DJs and has friends on and they interact in the Zoom chat. And all of that. And he also, I think he also just had another kid recently. Oh, you know Ripolo's got another mixed baby on the way? You already know the vibes? Oh, God. Yeah, he did. I mean, it's pretty sick because he's like – to be that level of famous where like you're – I've seen him saying like, wow, Future and Diplo had the best Mother's Day. You know what I mean? Like he's in that – Future has like nine babies. Mamas Diplo has maybe two, maybe three. So he's – But I guess in the DJ category, he's that guy. He's the future of DJs when it comes to children without marriage. It's true. Even though DJing has become a huge thing and it's a very popular genre of music that makes a lot of money, it's still a big fish in a small pond in terms of celebrity status. There's not too many DJs out there that... you know like my mom knows knows about and like a regular person would want to fuck and diplo is one of those people you know yes for and no shot no shots at you but you're you know diplo uh are you gonna say are you gonna say that diplo is hotter and more successful than me uh yes i am okay no shots

I mean, it's true, but he's able to clean up. He's able to clean up because he is... But I think he's like... I mean, DJs aren't known as a good-looking genre of people. And they're not known as people who are good and passionate, generous lovers, I would say. I didn't know. Have you had sex with them? I'm just saying, if somebody's looking at an R&B singer or somebody who... I guess the sex appeal of a DJ is not super high on a larger scale, I suppose. You know what I mean? They're usually kind of ugly, bedroom, homely-looking people, malnourished. Not many of them have a six-pack. And if they do, it's in a weird way. That's true. I'm trying to think of DJs whose faces I can think of, and it's basically Diplo, Deadmau5, and you. Mount Rushmore, baby. I was about to say, that's pretty good for you. That's a Mount Rushmore. You're the one that doesn't belong. One of those three DJs wears a masked helmet over his head because he's not necessarily pulling down the... pulling down big numbers like diplo and i are doing well let's not forget about what's the other guy marshmallow he wears a helmet too yeah nobody wants to fuck marshmallow even though he's a fucking millionaire and very very successful nobody's like i want to no way i mean tiesto looks like a damn damn michelin man like he looks crazy tiesto has fucked so much He's done very good for himself in that. Was he better looking when he was younger or just not fat? Yeah, he's one of those rare people that looked better when they were younger. I know it sounds hard to believe, but when he was 22, he was killing it harder than at 58. Both of us look better now than we did when we were 22. No, that's a good point. No cap. No, that is full cap. I agree with that. He did not get like.

he did not have like a queer eye makeover at age 48 and then suddenly become cool and fuckable. He was just, Oh, he was wearing deep V's and Armani exchange pants at 22. And he's doing the same thing right now. Not, not bad. I do like the consistency. I agree. He's got a type. Um, so we, um, you, you just released a different podcast today and I was, I was listening to that. Um, You told me I should give it a listen. You had a lot of content come out today. You had a GQ piece about sobriety in the quarantine, which, you know, nothing that I didn't already know, having been, you know, having discussed a lot of that with you on this show. Yeah, no. Good for the GQ audience to soak up. I mean, I think people are, you know, it's a dark time. In many ways, and I think people are getting turnt up for sure. Do you know anyone that has had any type of relapse or any real issue or struggle with it? No, I don't know anybody personally, but I saw some wild shit on Twitter. Somebody's older mother who had been sober for years got drunk and fell and hit her head and died. Hadn't drank in 15 or 20 years or something. Which, I mean, obviously that's an extreme story, but I'm sure there's many more minor issues going on in the world. Yeah. I'm very grateful that my desire to do that stuff has not really increased at all. I mean, I think that I'm interested. I mean, if there's underground parties going on, there's definitely people sitting in their house fucking doing coke. You know what I mean? Yeah, which is so fucked. I mean, do mushrooms right now? Great. Smoke a little weed right now? Great. But, you know, Coke, it's just, what's it going to do? You're already breaking rules and doing bad stuff. You're already breaking quarantine. You're partying. You're fucking strangers without a condom. You're already doing dirt if you are doing Coke right now. If you can't, just hang out for a couple of months without Coke.

Can you imagine somebody on a Zoom call and they're talking a mile a minute and the 40 minutes runs out and they're frantically trying to restart the Zoom while doing a bump? It's pretty cool when you think about that. I mean, I thank God every day that I don't have the desire to do that. I thank God for you too because we're much more productive this way. Damn right. But your podcast, Public... which is a podcast that you did. I realized that you hadn't put out another episode since 2018. 22 months. We were dormant. And then you slide back onto the scene out of nowhere with an episode where you record a cover song of an obscure late 80s power pop singer. And Chris is the singer of this song. So what do you think about the whole – did you listen to the whole show? I did listen to the whole show, yes. Let's give an unvarnished TJ take. I thought it was – I listened to it for the first time in a long time today, and I like the information that was there. It was a pretty deep dive. I mean, you know, it was – what is the guy's name? Jesse. Or Tommy Keene. Tommy Keene, yeah. It was about this guy who was like, you know, a genius musician of a certain genre in a certain time that not a lot of people know, didn't really get his shining credit. The real heads know who he is and, you know, you got educated about him. And then, you know, then it was more so just about you, you know, and your singing of one of those songs. Well, Jay, like I said, it was kind of like a Make-A-Wish Foundation situation, I think. Because Jay masterminded the whole thing. And I thought, I didn't know if it would actually happen. So then when it did, I was pretty fucking nervous. Yeah, I mean, I would be extremely nervous. We did it in the room. That's live. When did you record this? Two days ago? No, like six months ago, probably. Oh, shit.

yeah or maybe maybe less but about that yeah so i mean it was but it was like me in a room with eight people who are all like professional musicians you know what i mean and they all know me like i know them all you know some more than others so it's like so this really does feel like a make a wish yeah totally and there was like you know multiple there was a producer and we got it mastered and mixed and you know so it's a whole it's like a whole thing it's coming out it's coming out on itunes and spotify so what are the legal Ramifications of selling a song, a cover song. Oh, there's not any. They do all this stuff behind the scenes so that the songwriter gets the majority of the royalties. Okay, good. Yeah. So, I mean, the millions and millions we're going to make. So the estate will be able to buy another house or something with the bucks off of that. Yeah, exactly. But I thought your singing sounded pretty good. If you want to hear Chris Black sing a song, give it a listen. The process of doing that and really recording and going back and doing overdubs and harmonies and all that shit was really interesting to do. Because I understand how that works in a top-line way. But when you actually go do it, it's a lot more physically taxing than I thought it would be. Yeah. It's probably a muscle that you have to work out. I mean, I felt crazy. I felt crazy. After singing all day, you need to lay down, basically. Really? So, I mean, you left it all in the booth. I left it all in the booth, of course, but I also think it's more just like there's levels to the breath control and things that these professionals have learned. Yeah, you don't have the stamina of a Chris Brown or something where you're able to do track after track. with such genius dripping into the mic. Exactly. I'm proud of you. Thanks, Jason. It was a fun experience. I feel like it's one of those things, too, where people don't fully get it and they have to listen to the whole podcast. I feel like the opinions will take a while to trickle in. People will listen to the whole episode and still not get it. Don't worry. You think?

I mean, well, I guess get... I don't know. You told me what the episode was and what it was about, so I knew, but I wonder if I was just going in raw dog. I don't know if I would know what was going on or why it was happening. That's fair. If I can deliver it to you unvarnished. I love that delivery from you. But look, I'm just glad it's out in the world. I feel like this is really... This is something we worked on for a long time, and there's another part to it, too. So is the other pod going to come back online with a normal schedule? I would not go that far. The normal schedule being once every four months. I think once every four months could be possible, but we'll see. Jay is putting together – this actually benefits this podcast, too, but Jay is putting together a mobile rig for me. Oh, really? yeah just because he was like you should have this even if you guys want to keep how long gone like lo-fi you should just have this because it's easy to carry around and like it's it's cheap so you should just i'll buy it and put it together we'll send it to you cb's rig now this this is going to be a real professional sounding show now i i do though find the i know listening to public listening to public announcement day and hearing my voice through the proper microphone with all the compression shit i'm like damn this does this does in fact hit different You deserve it. I'm not the only person who should sound really, really good. I mean, yeah, you sound good, but I mean, oh, we didn't have a chance to discuss Man Repeller. I was number one on the voice list. I don't know if you saw it. I mean, you sound good, I guess, because you have a microphone, but I have the raw materials that people are looking for and responding to. Yeah, manrepeller.com. Did a story about the best voices. And that was a weird sentence because I was like, does it mean like literally your voice is good? No, it meant like timbre of my voice. Timbre. So your actual literal voice was ranked number one on the Man Repeller list of podcast voices. Well, look, I mean. Walk me through the DMs. What did they look like after that?

Not a single one. I didn't even know it went up. It took eight days for me to figure it out. Damn, the failing man repeller needs to get their shit stepped up. I know. What's the SEO looking like, man repeller? I don't know if that list was actually ranked. I think it was more just like, you know, thrown out there. Look, there are numbers. There's a one, there's a two, there's a three, and you had a one next to you, so you should take that. Thank you, TJ. But you should take it too. As my support staff, I think it's really important for me to recognize you in that honor as well. That's so nice. So nice of you. I mean, most podcasters do have a dumb voice. It's kind of making me wonder who actually has a good voice for podcasting. It's probably more women than men, I guess. I would think so. I mean, I don't know. I don't. I mean, like the daily guy that people like so much, like his voice makes me want to punch him. It's crazy. But I don't understand how people listen to that. It's like distracting. Because Ira Glass used to be number one for having that voice for a podcast. Do you remember when Ira Glass had a TV show for like three episodes and it just bombed? Yes. Just like Bill Simmons' TV show. My favorite moment. My favorite Ben Affleck on pills moment. Big ass bomb. Nobody can cross over. Well, they haven't met how long gone yet. That's the fucking problem. Hollywood, here we come. Yeah, we're going to get the Hulu deal. Don't worry. Well, I do think that it's also... The Bill Simmons one, to me, is more crazy that he couldn't cross over. Because it's like sports. People don't even care. I think the fact that it was on HBO is what fucked him. He should have been on ESPN. Yes, true. Yeah, no, definitely. I mean, that's where his audience is. But I figured I assumed his audience is both like an ESPN Miller Lite bro and also a little bit higher-minded city sports dork. You know what I mean? I thought it was like a pretty wide swath. Right. It does not do rock climbing, but is thinking about getting into it. Yes, definitely has a $10,000 road bike and 20 extra pounds. I got in a lot of trouble for a tweet about the last dance yesterday.

What did your tweet say yesterday? The last dance being the Michael Jordan ESPN. The unavoidable Michael Jordan. I still haven't seen it. I've watched it here. Here. Let's see. We are living in a post The Last Dance Society. We now must endure days of men arguing about a basketball documentary, a.k.a. a decent Nike commercial, on social media like it actually matters. Ooh, yes. I like it. I like that. But the issue about this that I have is that Michael Jordan himself, the subject in the documentary, was granted final cut. of the documentary. Therefore, we're not getting the tea. If he gets to sign off on it, it's not what I want to watch. I agree 100%. Anytime the documentary, you can watch a documentary and even if they don't divulge that info that they have final say on it, it has a stink to it. There was that documentary about Dr. Dre. It was like a year or two ago. It was about him and... Jimmy Iovine? Yeah, him and Jimmy Iovine. What's it called? The Unforgettables or Unstoppables? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfuckwithables, I believe. But the whole thing was just like a commercial for them. It was a commercial for Beats, Apple, and then the two of them as people. I mean, I learned. Yeah, I learned a lot of stuff. But at the end, it's like, and now we built... We donated all of our money because we feel guilty about having dozens of people killed over the years. Now we open a music wing at USC, a school for all of our rich friends, kids to pay money to get into. This is named after us. Don't get it twisted. We still have our name on it. And now our slate has been wiped clean and we are innocent of our crimes.

I mean, I liked that more because I'm more interested in music than I am in sports. Same. And I watched the whole documentary and I enjoyed it. It's the same thing. But there's a Serena Williams documentary on HBO that I watched on Plain once because I was just really flat bored. And it was insane. It was just like a commercial for her. It was like, I don't understand. But I think this trend is in line with all of these. Beyonce not letting someone interview her for the cover of Vogue. She writes an essay or her brother or her husband or her mom interviews. That shit is awful and killing journalism. That's the same thing with documentaries. You can't let the subject have a say in the contents or we're not going to get anything that's that interesting. That is full cucked media and all people who do not choose to participate. In real journalism, we have to speak with our wallets and stop giving them money. Exactly. Luckily, I don't pay for HBO. Yeah, but I agree with all of that completely, and it fucking sucks. And it really is going to be the end of a lot of people just being open and people being... confident in themselves like if you if you're not if you're too afraid to have somebody who's not on a member of your payroll to interview you then you know what do you what you have to be hiding something well also like i i mean michael jordan i think has literal bodies in the closet you know definitely his own fathers but i think that like what do you care dude you're 60 years old you're filthy fucking rich everybody knows you're kind of shitty like i i mean At a certain point, what's the difference? No one is going to stop buying your shoes or thinking you're the greatest basketball player alive if they found out you fucked some prostitutes and did some coke. Well, I think Nike might disagree with that. He probably doesn't give a fuck. Could you imagine one day if he breaks his contract with Nike? Imagine if Jordan signed to Yeezy.

Damn. So Jordan jumped over the jump man himself. That's crazy. The jump man jumped over the jump man himself. Good sign by Yeezy. Damn, that would be fire. Virgil doesn't know what to do. Damn, Virgil would be lost, bro. What would it be? Damn. That would really shake the world. Unfortunately, I don't think Jordan has the appetite for that at this late stage in his life. All he wants to do is chew on cigars and fuck white women. Can't blame the guy. No, I can't. Not at all. Between Jordan picks, smoking the cigar, and me going back through The Sopranos with Bay, cigars have been catching my eye. I'm never going to go buy a cigar, and I'm never going to start smoking cigars. But have you tried to smoke a cigar before? Yeah, of course. It's not good. It's weird. I agree. visual appeal is there but smoking a cigar sucks yeah i mean i love a cig i love the the way a pipe smells i don't think i'm going to hit the point where i become a pipe smoker that's a little too steampunk um okay but but when you walk by like you know a couple of old guys on on the porch smoking a pipe it's like a very wonderful nice smell damn i didn't know you lived in virginia where the fuck are you seeing that bitch no one does that look uh i think that i think that all it's it's when you're it's the white man's hookah the pipe smoke you know you got nice fruity flavors you have some that's a good point vanillas and all that stuff mahogany's and but but i think that the issue with with i mean a pipe you inhale correct i think so yeah a cigar you don't that's still a major you know that's the other thing about it it smells like shit and you don't even get to inhale and it doesn't when you've been when you've been taught to inhale your whole life to feel something it's a very difficult habit to break i feel like i agree with that but it but it also makes me wonder what is all the fuss why i have the same problem with with um food and restaurants a lot well i guess i used to

when restaurants existed but like i would go to a restaurant with like a group of like foodie people or like you know people who work in food media people whose opinions i would assume were respected and trusted and they and we'd be eating it all eating the same dish and they'd be like oh so fucking good i fucking love it blah blah blah blah blah and i would eat it and be like it's not really hidden for me and it's either like is the dish bad and I'm the only one who knows it? Or is the dish good and I am not able to recognize the subtleties and complexities of this? And I feel the same thing about cigars. I mean, it seems like it's predominantly an old man's game. So maybe there's something about our palates that's just not matured enough yet. I need to get more dusty. I mean, I didn't know if that was possible, but yes, maybe you should. I think it's also just one of those things that can get expensive, so people fetishize it. And it's like a bro thing. You go with your boys and sit in a room with leather chairs and puff on cigs or puff on cigars and talk about the NFL or whatever. Yeah, I agree. And it's like a cig that lasts for an hour and a half. So that part I understand its benefit. I don't think it looks as cool as cigs. Definitely not. But that's okay. But you can chomp on it, which is interesting. Yeah, and you can have it in your mouth for a long time without even lighting it. Just having it there and letting that nicotine just kind of soak into your gums. That's got to be pretty cool. I mean, I love nicotine and I love my gums. I was recently, a lot of people are talking about Lena Dunham, talking about poppers. Because she didn't know. Because she didn't know how to use them? Well, her description of the effects of it were not in line with anyone who has done poppers before. Did she act like it was coke or something? No, she said she did them and it just made her eat a whole cheesecake. And everyone was like, that's not what happens on poppers, sis. But I was thinking, you don't know what happens in Lena Dunham's house.

That's true. It doesn't take much to have her eat a whole cheesecake. I think she just has a look at it. You know what I mean? Have you done poppers before, Chris? I feel like I've done poppers, but I feel like it was during a phase of doing nitrous, too. Yeah, they definitely are. I feel like there was a time. I lived in a very... shitty apartment that was surrounded by like a bunch of skateboarders and um i lived with a guy who sold coke and we would do weird we would have downer sundays um so sometimes we would hit the we would crack the nitrous cans we would smoke opium we would smoke weed you know a little bit of a little bit of everything downer sundays is news to me by the way What do you mean? I don't think you've ever told me about this. I was literally 20 years old. For some reason, we were able to get opium. We would put opium on top of an AOL. AOL CDs still came. They came in those tins. I know what you mean. We'd put the opium on top, light it on fire, get it smoking, and then put a toilet. toilet tissue tube on our mouth and lean over and get a big nice lung full of that so so like in like in old movies from the 60s where you see people just kind of like curled over in a dark den you take a hit and then you lay back down and kind of fall asleep for four hours all sweaty like that's what you were doing I was a little bit cooler than that, I like to think, but it also wasn't cooler than that because it was like me and another dude. What happens when you smoke opium? I mean, opium, that's just raw dog heroin, right? You feel fire. It's amazing. Are you kidding me? It's fire. It's weird, though, that we had such a line on it. I don't know why because we also had a lot of hash at the time, too. There must have been somebody that just had it.

Yeah, you don't hear too much about the hash and the opium connection. Maybe you had the Moroccan homie or something. Because the hash was fire because the hash, what real heads know, you twist it and get it like a thin worm and then you lay it, you stick it to the rolling paper or the blunt wrap and then put the weed in it so it's smoking even all the way down. I've seen those types of turbo joints that are all wrapped in hash oil and all that shit. it's too fucked up for me but but it does sound very cool to smoke a little opium on a sunday and then just it was cool watch but you know what you know what unlike lena dunham that didn't make me eat anything so i don't know you know did she i mean when did you do poppers i mean what time is it no i mean i've done poppers a bunch and not a bunch maybe like 20 times or something I would say the very first time I ever had it was just being in the club DJing and then somebody comes up to me and puts it in my nose and tells me to inhale. And I was like, whoa, what the fuck was that? And then I've taken it before. I've never gotten down a pop or K-hole, which I've seen. I've always known when to just... take a little pop and then pull back because I've seen people get too spun out on it and it's not cute at all. I mean, is it predominantly a gay thing just because it gives you a chub? It doesn't give you a chub. But it makes you, you know. It makes you a little saucy. It doesn't just turn you horny. No, I know. It allegedly relaxes your muscles, especially in and around your butthole. I did know that. It's not an on and off switch. Much like nitrous, it's a quick hit.

oh yeah yeah it is a quick yeah it's like a it's like a you know two minute experience so you have a whiff yeah you giggle for a couple minutes you feel a little little like kind of woozy nauseous in a fun way you get a little spacey and then and then it goes away and you got to get more well i mean sounds cool but doesn't make me want to eat a cheesecake no um i was driving by the pantages theater yesterday and saw that hamilton was supposed to be playing there right now and then it And it did bring me a little joy to see Hamilton not being able to perform its show to anyone. Well, unfortunately, Jason, it's coming to television. They moved it up. It's coming to television in July, I think. I'm sure it's on a premium network, but I'm not sure which one. But that's official. Is it going to be a movie or a TV series? Probably going to be a series. No, I think it's going to be like a one time. Oh, they're just going to do the whole play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One take, one take. I feel like they have it probably and they've been sitting on it. It's ready and they were just going to promote the show of it for three months and then put it out. But I guess they moved it up. I mean, you know, people who like Hamilton, what do you think it is? Like, what do you think? Is it just a testament to how corny the world is? I think it's like people who, I mean, I understand the people who just think it's cool and funny and like, oh man, I learned about stuff and I had raps and hip hop and that was cool to see. I understand that part, but the part that I always try to figure out are like, who are the intelligent, talented people who also like it? Like I'm sure Larry David thinks it's amazing. And I think that's probably just an age thing for him. Well, I think Hollywood types like it because of maybe how well it's performed and the rigors behind that and how well it's done financially. Maybe they can't separate themselves from the business positive sides. Yeah, it could be that. I guess it goes back to what I was saying before about cigars or eating food. Am I missing something?

Am I so blocked that I'm missing some beauty and greatness in Hamilton? Maybe I have to see it on Molly to finally let my walls down. But TJ, that's not – no. Something good should be able – you should be able to ingest it and enjoy it under the influence or not. No, I mean I need to have my negative opinions about things because it makes me who I am. Well, speaking of negative opinions about things, How do you feel about my king back on the streets, 6ix9ine? How have we not covered this until now? Well, I saw Crooked Ariana coming for him and Justin Bieber trying to come for him. I mean, first of all, welcome back to the streets. I saw Snoop Dogg was coming for him as well. A lot of people are coming for him. With him, it's like... Look, if the world has to decide very... He's in purgatory right now. The world needs to decide, are they going to kill him or are they going to let him live? And that's all it comes down to. And then whoever is going to make a bunch of money off of him, they sort of get to decide if he's going to live or not. I mean, I don't... Actually, I was listening to Brilliant Idiots, my favorite podcast. You know, Charlemagne said he would suck his dick. Is that show still on? Dude, it's huge. Yeah. So, yeah, he said that he would suck 6ix9ine's dick if he ever got out. Yeah, he would suck 6ix9ine's dick if he ever got out. So the first episode after he got out, the co-host, Andrew, was like, so I guess we should talk about this. He's like, I don't want to talk about this. And went on this whole rant about how it's like it makes him sad and it's unfortunate. It's this thing on the community. I'm like, bro, you said you'd suck this guy's dick if he got out of jail. You can't get serious now. Well, I mean, the problem with sucking dick is it's a two-way street. Takashi has to agree to this as well. That's an interesting point, Jason. That's a very interesting point. And that's not something that I considered. But I'd like to also think that Takashi would be a good sport and agree to doing it because he would get such pleasure out of it. Even if he's not, he'd be like, no homo, but I want.

I want to see Charlamagne suck my dick because that would bring me pleasure. I get that. That's true. It would be pleasure. I mean I don't think that – I just think that the whole attitude about – like people – if you are not a true gang member, I don't want to hear you call somebody a snitch, you dork. Like you don't get to wait. You don't get – no, I can't fuck with a snitch. Like what are you talking about? Right. You're a creative director. There's no snitching in your world. These street rules do not apply to you. Yeah, the only snitching you're doing is involving a WeWork parking spot. Yeah, no, the new snitching for white people is when you see somebody without a mask on. That's true. That's the new snitching. It's tattletailing, is what I call it. It's fucking tattletailing. Do you think that 6ix9ine is going to let him live, or do you think he's just going to die soon? Oh, he'll definitely die soon. You think so? How soon is soon? I don't know how soon. No, he'll be around for a while. Maybe, I mean, look. There's probably Vegas numbers on his life. Oh, definitely. But I also don't think he's that, like, I just don't think he's that, like, if a teenage girl can post his location on fucking Instagram and he has to move, like, he ain't that protected. Is that what happens? yeah like the neighbor saw like the neighbor saw his car like a young girl or boy i don't know i don't know which but like saw saw it on saw it on oh damn i live next door to takashi 69 now this is crazy yeah because dude he lived in like a fucking long island development with like a pool in the middle like he wasn't he wasn't on some he wasn't that sequestered you know what i mean he gotta go to montana i mean where can he really go that's the problem i mean when you look like bozo the clown with face tattoos like you can't really go anywhere but i mean the discourse i don't fully understand what ariana and bieber are so mad about like because he he came for them and said they were everybody's cheating to get number ones because they can't do ticket bundles right now so like i i mean you got your friends calling or whatever they're spending fucking 30 racks to get you it doesn't it's not a big deal but like been happening for decades

I mean, yes, that is how the music. Paola is one of the greatest parts of the music business, and I'm happy to see it's still going on, personally. Darn tootin'. Darn tootin', but I don't know what. I want 6ix9ine to, I mean, I think he's hilarious. I think that he should stick around. You know, everyone is a fucking snitch. It doesn't matter anymore. Everybody is a snitch, and I don't think, like, I just don't get it, man. I don't get it. Why do people care? Is the music good? It's okay. I don't think that song is great. Have you listened to it? Yeah, his new song is not that good, but his old music, very good. We are a pro 6ix9ine podcast, you would say, correct? Yeah, we are. That type of rap music, almost all popular rap music, it's basically just like wrestling. Once you remove that from it and realize that it's all just some charade, then you just see who plays the game the best. Those people always succeed. 6ix9ine is playing that game really, really well. I agree. To me, that's what celebrity in general is. You have to come out. You have to beef. You have to talk shit on everyone else. You have to stir it up. That's what... That's just what people want to see at the end of the day. They don't want to see some boring-ass rapper. They don't want to see Currency releasing a new freaking EP or something talking about cars and weed, old jebbies and weed. You need to call people out. You need to say wild, out-of-pocket shit. Him in that IG Live video, he gets one of his hoes to come take his chain off because it's too heavy. That is just, I mean. See, and he, it's good stuff. And he thought about, he planned it out, he executed it and it worked out quite well. I truly think he's an idiot savant. Like I think he's dumb as a fucking rock, but he's found the one thing that he's good at and it's, it's manipulating the media basically. Yeah. You know, and I don't think, I think everything else is secondary. Like the music, that's why the music will never be that good again probably is because he's so focused on the other stuff now.

Yeah, that's true. But, you know, I could see him coming around and being like, you know what? I took some notes. I watched some footage, some tape, and I'll make some changes and come back around. I think I see it happening. I got some Twitter questions. We sent out some tweets earlier. Some tennis nomad wants to know what our tennis gear setup is. I mean, I don't know. Unfortunately, I'm not well-versed enough. I don't even know. I know that I have a Yonix racket. I have a Yonix and a Babylon. I have a couple rackets. Why do you have multiple rackets, Chris? Because you've got to have a couple sticks in your bag just in case you break a string. What the fuck do you mean? Why do I have two? You're looking at it on 15 just to flex. Okay, okay. I wear Nike. I wear the Nike. They're like a cage shoe. I really like them, actually. So you have an actual tennis shoe that you play tennis with? I'm so afraid of injury and fucking up my workout routine that I will buy whatever the – because tennis shoes make a difference. When you're running around and stopping and starting, you need a different kind of support. I've actually never tried actual shoes that you're supposed to wear when you're playing tennis. I keep – do you need them dude i keep a pair in new york i keep a pair in la i keep a pair in atlanta just in case damn you really are a pro gear pro attitude um well it was it was when i got invited to play i got to play at the um the grass courts in queens like during the us open last year for this like racket racket magazine event it had to be you had to wear tennis whites um so i had to buy a pair of white ones and i have black ones in la and then atlanta i have some garbage shoes i bought but i do wear them when i play there yeah for shoes shoes for me i just always wear you know whatever shoes that are kind of old and beat up because once you slide and pivot a bunch it destroys your shoes very quickly i will say what i need to invest in that i think is more valuable than i realize is the the sweatband the arm sweatband that is a big thing especially now that it's going to be warm out like i'm going to be drenched and i just i can't

I can't lose grip. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, and it especially comes in handy when you're going mask off shirtless on the court. You need, you need those sweat bands to otherwise your racket will be flying out of your hands every five seconds. You know, a couple of years ago, uh, one of my friends, Garrett Colton, who used to live in LA, but now he lives in Oklahoma city. He's like a, he sells vintage stuff and books and everything. And he, for some reason came on a box of white tennis shorts in my size, like all different. nike prince there's even there's even a bulletary academy pair like so and i've had them forever and then when i need to like when i play in toronto with alex's dad it's whites all it's it's it's you have to wear tennis whites in whites only yeah yeah i've never heard of a whites only tennis tennis club before yeah there's a lot of them out there um and so i have and then i just buy some white uniclo polos and i'm good to go Damn. Our tennis worlds are two very different ones, and I like that. Well, I mean, I learned from the gear god, so it's like... I like being the wrong side of the track's underdog, and you're the clubhouse pro snooty rich kid that I have to defeat. Yes, yes, and I think that that is... I don't even... I guess... I go to tenniswarehouse.com and just cop up. It's all pretty cheap. That's the thing. Nothing is that expensive, which I like about the sport in general. It's all very reasonably priced. Well, whenever we're both in the same town again, we will set up the Twitch Patreon and we will do a full tennis match, you and I. That's a good idea. For the fans. For the fans. Because Chris has gotten really good at tennis in the last six months from what I've heard. So it should be a good match. I'm very rusty, but luckily I think in Atlanta I'm going to have somebody to hit with. So I'll be able to slowly bring it back. I was just kidding. I'm going to easily beat you at tennis. Not really too much of a problem. Jason, the problem is that you don't have the athleticism that I have. And that is going to slow you down.

fourth or fifth set that's when i'm gonna start getting a little gassed and then you'll have me exactly yeah when you're when you're like walking around and pushing the clock and the umpires yelling at you for taking too much time to serve that's when i'm just bouncing so you really come alive post like after hour four that's when you that's when you start kind of pulling ahead that's where your marathon training really starts to kick in that's when the cb afterburners click on and i cannot be stopped Damn. How's your serve looking? Serve, not great. But I don't think that that's the final piece of the puzzle, I think, as far as the game goes. And then you'll be ready for the press? Yeah, exactly. Then I'm on the tour. Perfect marks across the board. Once you get that serve up, then you're really going to be a force to be reckoned with, I'm assuming. Exactly. They reopened the tennis courts here in LA. I've already played once. It'll happen again. They've reopened the NASCAR track in Montreal as well. I'm going to whip your ass and we're going to put it on Twitch. It's going to be sick. Next question. A question for Done to Death is TJ Abar. He strikes me as an early admirer of Nicki Minaj. Please go off. Jonas, interesting question. I saw that question. I really liked it. And I'm going to say without full knowledge, yes. I think the answer is yes. I am an early Barb. I'm an early Barb. Well, I feel like when she was really popping in the early days, she had slaps. You were DJing a lot, and you needed Nicki. I mean, she has turned into a little bit too much of a cuckoo nowadays, much like Lady Gaga or many other people in the world. Don't come for Gaga like that. What's your favorite song off her newest album?

bitch i don't know yeah it doesn't matter exactly she's fucking she's cemented legend after a star is born and the other shit the acoustic record that ronson yeah there's a lot of these people are cemented legends but they they hit a peak and then you know like what's your favorite britney spears song off of her new album you don't even know what it's called nobody does but you're right no okay okay tj okay look i'll go But the answer to the question is, yes, you're a Barb. Yeah, nowadays, not really a fan. But to me, at least, my opinion is when she's on and she's cooking, she's a great, strong MC. I think she's not even making a female or male thing just across the board. Even though Safari wrote all the bars. So I don't know how that works. That's a good point. That is a very good point. It makes you wonder. But she can spit. Her delivery was good. I like it when she wasn't too animated and kind of like how Eminem would get a little too animated and do weird voices and things like that. I didn't like that too much, but if it was just hard body bars, boom, boom, boom, she was often bodying anyone else on the song. No, that's definitely true. She had a run. And she had a great crossover of gay and straight clubs. That's true. That's hard to pull off. Very hard, very hard. So, yeah, I'm TJ at Barb, deadass. Benjamin Edgar asks, internet, social media, phone diets, as in not using your phone for a day, week, et cetera. We all know where Chris stands on that. I broke a new personal record of screen time last week. I just want to thank everybody for supporting me. Is it a personal high or personal low? Personal high. I want to thank, first of all, thank God, first and foremost. You know what I'm saying? My creator. Yeah, I got to thank my manager, my agents, the CAA. But no, it was 10 hours a day. I like that you're able to hit these huge double-digit screen time numbers, but you're not.

doing it with quibi you're not watching any youtube videos you're not watching netflix you're not doing any apple tv streaming this is just on raw surfing this is just twitter the internet browsing emails and text yeah well and ig ig but i use i guess i use it for working out now so that's an hour a day you know okay that's fine but i mean that's good so and you have no reason or feeling that you, that you could go for a diet, a, a phone fast. I mean, it would probably be great for me. Um, but I think it would truly be like full withdrawals for a little while. Like, I think I would feel really weird and I don't think that a pandemic is the time to feel like that. Well, I think maybe, um, you know, I, I have an idea and try this on for size. You were talking before about your downer Sundays where a 20 year old Chris would just. do drugs all day, essentially going offline on a Sunday, God's day where there's the least amount of news coming in, the least amount of shit coming in. Good point. There's no dumb ass editorial stories about some shit that you're going to want to read dropping on a Sunday. Maybe, um, you know, you set that up. That's my time. Yeah. We don't do the whole day. We started off slow. Yeah. Okay. Maybe I will, man. This Sunday, this is a TJ challenge. You wake up, you check your phone, make sure you got your emails sorted out, and then the phone stays down until noon. I could probably do that, but we'll see. That's four hours. On this drive I'm about to do, I'm going to not be able to use my phone that much. You know what I mean? When I'm alone 10 and 2 on the wheel and the music's playing, I'm not surfing. Interesting. I think if you are driving alone on some open road in Oklahoma or some shit, and I'm solo, my ass is on the gram scrolling. But if I'm in a car full of other people, phone is down. I'm not doing that. No, I'm listening to, I'm going to, dude, new Killers album going to drop. It's over.

See, for me, road trips, you got to go books on tape or podcasts only. The killers can only take you so far in a meditative sense. You know what? I actually tried for the first time, and I would love to hear your opinion on this. So, Ben, to answer your question, fuck you. There's this thing called Autumn, I believe is what it's called, that reads magazine articles to you. Oh. And so that Phoebe Bridgers profile in The New Yorker. I, on Sunday, I just tried, I just played it through the speakers at the house and it was actually really nice. I never listened to books on tape or anything like that. And I really enjoyed it. So maybe I will try some of that. So, so autumn is, so you, you, it's an app that you open up on your phone and then you search for the article. Well, I don't know. It was, it's on like when you go to the page, when you go to the New Yorker.com and click on the link, it's there. Smash that autumn button. I've seen that service a lot. In general, that idea where you can listen to it instead of read it, but I'd never tried it before. That article was really long, so it was like a 29-minute read or something. It was interesting. Question, do it cost? I'm sure it does. It did not this time. I would imagine that it has to cost at some point. I think it's going to be a big thing. That type of stuff is going to be very big in the future. It's kind of hard to listen to that unless you're alone or you have headphones on. But if you're chilling on the couch with Bay and you're reading The New Yorker, you can read that story in peace. But if it's being read aloud to you, then it's a little disruptive. I agree. I was alone and I enjoyed the process. Doing the dishes alone, put on a cool New Yorker article. Honey, take me away. I'm home. I live for cool articles, Jason. Yeah, I know you do. I'm okay with them at best. Next question, Elliot Foos, a passionate defense of experimental music. And I assume that this is where you defend experimental music to me, or is it the other way around? What is experimental music?

Well, first of all, we should do a whole podcast just answering that question. I'm saying give me – I need an example of what you would consider to be like a popular experimental artist. I guess experimental music – okay, I'll say Apex Twin maybe is a good example. I mean I fuck with Apex Twin. I've been listening to that a little bit in the core actually. But there are Apex Twin like – selected ambient works that are these like nice peaceful versions of it. That's what I've been listening to. That's what you've probably been listening to. And then there's also catalogs of just maniac. I mean, I guess experimental music is anything where it's a non-traditional thing. There's no structure to it. Fucked up sounds and weird things. And you have to sort of look at it as its own art form. I just don't, I don't, I don't understand the, the appeal of like, meandering music with no structure but i do think there's a time and a place for it does that make sense yeah there is i agree with that i think you know some people want to have their their beauty spoon fed to them and some people like to sift through the rubble and find a little little gold and nugget and that's i think that's the the draw to experimental music is like here's this you know aw tecker album of just bleeps and bloops but then on minute 48 you hear something that's like this pure bliss tone and you're like oh it's all worth it now but you know obviously not for everyone and it's a virgin cuck activity uh that's definitely true um is there anything more advanced basic than loving carbones or scars i got i got i also got in trouble for a scars pizza tweet once People be loving scars. It is advanced basic though, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, it's pizza. I don't know why they have an Air Force One, but go off. It's like people really being into John and Vinny's, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I love pizza, but I don't need to... Who doesn't? I'm not going to die on the hill for a pizza place. I don't know. I mean, the thing is, Carbone is actually good. It's just really corny. Right, just like John and Vinny's.

Yeah, I mean, John Vinny's is less corny, but because they play hip-hop, it's a tough call. It's a tough call. There's nothing less cool than playing hip-hop in a restaurant. Well, ask and you shall receive. That just isn't going to happen anymore. And I agree. It's so bad. It's so bad. Yeah, I mean, especially if it's a restaurant full of white people. And you're like, do you remember a Biggie Smalls? What if we had pork belly and Biggie Smalls at the same time? We could do whatever we want when we're grown-ups. Pork belly and Biggie Smalls? That should be just the name of the restaurant. And also, you could have really nice wine, but also Pabst in a can. That's exactly what it is. Jesus Christ. I saw... That OnlyFans has been valuation set at $1 billion now. That's so sick. But I've heard they're having some issues because they're kicking off some of the original sex workers. Really? Why? Yeah. Too sexy. It's getting too big and they're probably trying to tighten it up, which is unfortunate because that's the people who got it popping. So they're trying to go clean. They're trying to go clean. I mean, I don't know how clean, but it sounds like they're trying to make some changes. That's fucked. It's fucked up. You can't abandon your original. You need them. There's got to be a reason. I need to look into that. But yeah. You know what? I'm going to look into that, Chris. I'll look into that. What is the three numbers on the back of your MX again? I need to do some research. It's actually four numbers. That was a trick question. And only a true Amex owner would know that. Well done, Chris. Hey, thank you, Jason. Don't test me. Don't test me. There's a new app called Clubhouse. Have you heard of it? No, you fucking dork. What is it? Well, it's like a new... So right now, it's like an invite-only thing where it's basically audio chat rooms.

It's very hyped up right now. Invite only. It's not even on the app store, blah, blah, blah. And you have to get invited to use it. But it's basically like a virtual reality world that you can walk in and out of these rooms and things like that. But it's only audio based. So you can sort of, I guess it's like Twitch or something where you can have two people talking, but it's just the audio of it. Interesting. Have you used it? No, I'm if anyone knows how to get me on there, hook it up. But it seems like there could be some interesting, fun ways to explore, you know, digital experiential events and things like that. Or, you know, live podcasts could be interesting on there as well. I love when you get into your little tech bag. My little I got a tech little bag. Yeah, but it's like a very it's I think. People only care about it because it's super exclusive, which is good. Like a true nightclub experience. I saw you hating from outside the club. Also, we just got another question. Best underwear. Oh, Uniqlo Supima cotton boxer briefs only. Oh, also... This is an exclusive. Joe Rogan just signed an exclusive multi-year podcast deal with Spotify beginning September 1st. It's going to be the only place you can hear it. Damn, I guess they got rid of, I guess we're not getting our back from Spotify anymore. They spent all their money on fucking that truther. Damn. And their stock just went up 11%. Oh my God. What's the check looking like? Does it say how much the deal was? I'm trying to read it right now. Also, bitch, are you on a Hollywood reporter while we're podcasting? No, somebody just texted me just saying like, damn, this Joe Rogan Spotify news. And I was like, what are you talking about? Do you, do you get, do you get alerts from variety? I didn't know you'd gone Hollywood like that. We just started this podcast three months ago. This is, you know, whenever we do, I know you like talking about current events and pop culture. So I just had a few, few teed up, you know, I love that. I love when you team me up daddy.

Does it say how much the bag is? No, I did not say. But I mean, it has to be Cuckoo, Cuckoo Bucks. Cuckoo. And some other podcasts are doing it. There's another show called Winds of Change. It's a podcast about the Scorpion song from the 80s, about it being written by the CIA. Oh, I've heard about this. I mean, that's so dorky. I don't care, but I'm sure. Is it doing numbers? Well, I think it is doing pretty well, but it is. they released episode one on Apple or on everywhere and basically said like, if you like this show, listen to all the other episodes on Spotify only. Interesting. So they, and I feel like you shouldn't be allowed to do that. If I was Apple, I'd be like, I would shut that shit down if you're only, if you're not going to share. So why do you think Apple's not handing out the bags to compete? Like, what do you think the issue is? I think Apple never, never made money off of podcasting is the problem because it's always free because apple music you you pay 10 bucks a month spotify you pay 10 bucks a month but podcasting was always free but now if if people start you know in like the the luminary podcasting app like the subscription service that took a shit nobody cares about it for obvious reasons because podcasts are just free i'd rather listen to a podcast with an ad It's very easy to fast forward a podcast commercial versus a Hulu. I wouldn't fast forward our ads because they feel a little more artistic than maybe some other podcasts. But in general, yes, you could do that. Yeah, we put a lot of work into those and they're unique in their own special way. So definitely don't fast forward those. That's really interesting. But maybe, you know, luckily we're in bed with Spotify and maybe they'll offer us the bagu as well. I'm going to hit Armand right now. Where's our bag at? You're going to go with Joe Rogan's little ass over me? He's selling kettlebells. You know what I'm saying? I'm using kettlebells. Their stock went up 11%. I would say Joe Rogan was about 8%, 9% of that, but the other 2%, 3% was us. I would have to say. I don't see how that could not be true.

And then last question from Twitter. It just says 90s movies. That's not a question. Maybe they like 90s movies. That's more of a statement. But thank you for participating. 90s hip-hop is also awesome. As far as 90s movies, I suggest 1996's The Cable Guy starring Jim Carrey. A damn classic. Pure Heat. What about you, Chris? What do you mean? Bless us with your final 90s, your favorite 90s movie. Oh. It's going to be like a fucking documentary about an artist somewhere. No, no. I don't even know. Dude, I'm not, I just don't know, dude. I don't know. Fucking Dead Poets Society. I don't know, dude. I don't know. I don't like thinking. People, there's just, I'm just a music person. That's where my allegiances fall. I like movies, but my knowledge only lies within the music sphere. She's a music buff. Exactly. Not even though. There's still people who are dorkier than me. I just have good taste and they don't. And you said it here first, baby. Well, I did rediscover an old album over the weekend that I would like to suggest before we log off. Okay. Go on. Breach. Breach by The Wallflowers. Bob Dylan's son. Remind myself to start playing the music right now to get us out of the show. No problem. The best song is Hand Me Down, the second song. But it's a great record. It's just right up my street. And it's the record after the one with all the hits on it. So they really were in the pocket. Breach by the Wallflowers. Exactly. Damn. Yeah, keep an eye on that. That should bring Spotify up to 12% with all the fucking streams of the wall. I mean, and the Jacob Dillon estate is going to do big numbers. He's not dead. He will be as soon as he sees how well Breach is performing on Spotify. That's a good point. He's just going to die from shock. Do you think he's still hot? How old is he now? He's definitely still hot. That man is fucking good looking.

That's facts. How old do you think he is? 50. Let's just go. I'm not even going to check how old he is. He's probably 50. All right, Chris. Thank you, Jason. You rock. Hey, Jason, you rock. All right, well, I'll talk to you later. We'll see you guys next time. And also, this is coming out today when we have new merch. Oh, yeah, I forgot. How could we forget to prompt people to, you know, we wanted to create something that both encapsulate our love for high-end boutique grocery stores and our love for sipping mud. And so we have created a dense diner-style mug with a how-long-gone Dean DeLuca-inspired insignia on one side. I don't know how much liquid it holds, but it'll probably hold your full pour over. And we want you guys, the listeners, to be as caffeinated as the hosts. This is a dialogue. You know what I'm saying? And we're only going to rip off companies that have gone out of business so they can't hit us with the cease and desist. Exactly. We're very smart business people as well as creative powerhouses. JCPenney, we're coming for you next. Yeah, yeah. Hold your loin. Gird your loins. We're doing it. And then there's going to be even more shit dropping like next week. We're just going to hit them over the head. Yes, indeed. Can't wait. So, yeah, stay tuned to our social media accounts. We'll be posting all that stuff and snatch it up before it's all gone. All right. I'll talk to you later, bro. Bye-bye. Bye.